Andy & Clark Houston on Racing Routes with Hamm

Andy & Clark Houston on Racing Routes with Hamm

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stories their paths their racing roots sponsored by jersey cape yachts now here’s our host david hamm and good evening everyone welcome to racing roots with ham right here on 5 50 am and 92.9 fm and here we are down to the wire we got everything dialed in ready to go and hopefully you’re joining us on youtube we’ve got a studio full of good friends and andy nice kid no it’s good to see you again man i feel like i’m i’ve been having your whole family in here pretty much yeah it’s been uh it’s been fun and you know i come up a few months back with my dad and and it was good to hear his stories and then my brother was on a couple weeks ago and so now myself and my son clark’s gonna be on that’s right i’m excited to meet clark yeah thank you for having me on i’m really looking forward to it thanks for coming he uh when i first met him i was like you know now when i did the pictures the thumbnail i put it together and i was like i hope that’s not andy but it looks like that’s a more recent picture because you’re obviously younger but y’all look so much alike yeah yeah we get that quite a bit yeah and that’s that’s a compliment right well i did send marty the link so he was he was like awesome he’s excited well when marty was on he uh i kept sending questions to you to ask marty you know stuff that we’ve been through in the past so i think he’s been working on his list today so he’s liable to he’s able to be texting you or something yeah it’s like payback time right i’ll make sure i got my phone turned on where i can hear it so yeah our buddy mike nieder’s in he’s uh he’s a guy that owns some mcdonald’s here in iredell county so he’s tuned in okay great and i’m pretty sure he probably saw your picture with the mcdonald’s first seat on as well yeah we could put mcdonald’s on a race car again if he wants to yeah he’s great and he’s perfect that’s a good idea because clark needs that’s right another one too yes because but you got uh is it mountain yeah alps mountain affordable hearing uh jeff klein he’s got uh he’s got a couple locations uh here in hickory and in the mountains and and on the on the coast so uh he helps us out quite a bit and helps us get to the racetrack that’s a nice looking truck yeah it is uh dug graphics they also helped me out quite a bit uh dale duckworth designed it and and jeff klein put some input in and uh it turned out really good good deal we were talking about duckworth and i said that duck i remember seeing that on science down at carolina speedway but does he have anything to do with duckworth in mooresville probably not different different duckworths okay different family there all right so yes i got clark in with me and andy houston and they are clark is the grandson of tommy houston and you’re wearing a tommy houston shirt tonight very cool and then we’ll throw back there yeah and then andy’s the the younger son that’s right i got two older brothers scott and marty and uh you know marty and myself both raced and scott he crew chief my dad for a lot of years and we’ve all been involved in race our whole lives so what is god up to now well um it changes kind of like the weather but um the last i checked he was buying and selling some real estate and he’s bought and sold cars and he does a little bit of this a little bit of that he’s in him and his wife live in florida and and you know yeah he’s got a tough life right yes that’s it i got some we got some friends that listen on here uh they’re down in florida paul and paul rodriguez and kit rodery gets there down in port st lucie okay and then scott travis and the beer man uh the coors beer man and janna are down in daytona area okay uh they’re in there in the st augustine area they are in uh let’s see further south they’re in is it ponce in not pontin lid i always want to say that deleon springs okay yeah mm-hmm so where did where did scott live he’s in st augustine oh he’s in san jose yeah right okay we went there last year we were we went around and uh i was looking for the fountain of youth oh okay so did you find it i found several of them but the water didn’t impress me very much okay i got you it tasted like it was like sulfury tasting that’s what they say yeah phil you ever had to water down there no i’ve never been to the fountain of youth can’t you tell look at me i don’t know look at you you know a funny story the neighborhood that we live in is called catawba springs and back in the late 1800s early 1900s that was a one of those springs that people come from all around and they the neighborhood before it was built had a hotel and and like a bandstand and people would come for the summer and they would go and get in the spring and the actual railing and stuff for the spring is still there in the neighborhood there’s a book on it it’s really kind of neat you know so catawba springs that’s neat and there’s uh down in the uh one of the springs we went to it wasn’t it it was no that wasn’t one in st augustine it was actually had the well where they originally and they said that was the one that was it okay and then he’d get a little sample of the water and uh but now what’s working on you’re looking good oh yeah yeah i brought some home with me you know take a sip on it every evening uh so all right so we’re here to listen to your your stories your path your racing roots so we we kind of went through this with andy but we had tommy in here at the same time so it’s kind of like now you get to have your tents at the spotlight i guess you could say and as well as clark so we got like uh double duty tonight which is great yeah it works out yeah so let me see get this camera angled up a little bit there we go got both of you in and so if you are listening on the radio if you all want to go and see us here live in the randy man studio you can go to dhammam on youtube and tune in that way and you can see andy and clark in here with us all right so obviously you were tommy’s son and and so like you said you had two other brothers but i’ve seen pictures of you at the racetrack when you were just a little kid oh yeah i mean as far as i can remember we were at the racetrack and and we grew up going to hickory and new asheville speedway up in asheville north carolina and you know other places around south boston virginia i mean we we travel mainly mainly on the east coast and mainly within a few hours away but you know that’s all we ever did and that’s all i remember doing uh growing up and clark he gets jealous because he says man i just wish i could have grew up in that era when you guys got to travel and it was i mean i cherish a lot of those memories as a child and anybody asked me from the age of four or five years old to i graduated high school they said what do you want to do you know when you get out of school or when you grow up and it was always i wanna drive race cars i mean that was that was all i knew and that’s all i wanted to do so back then when your dad traveled that was in the era of the custom van oh yeah yeah yeah we wore out we completely completely wore out at least three custom vans yeah and uh and and that is not any exaggeration at all we had we had you know i remember the very first one well before the custom vans we had like a what we call a hippie type fan you know it was just a panel van that didn’t have any windows in it and that was that was in the i must say early late 70s yeah we had it for a few years and then we got like a full-on custom van with the earlier with like the captain’s chairs the first one we got didn’t have the raised top on it but it was still way cool and and my mom and dad wore that van out and then we got a new comfort coach van you elaborate on they wore the van out they stated it on the weekend right no they they wore the engine and the drive train out driving this thing from wherever we went clarifying you’re right yeah there you go there’s a race going on here that’s right all right well tracy uh we might have turned the air back on it’s hot is it hot in here it gets warm yeah yeah we have that too things just got hotter in here we can only take off so much clothes i guess you could say uh it was just you and marty back then right or just two of you didn’t have any brothers or something my older brother you know scott was always he’s six years older than myself and scott was always either driving the hauler or riding in the hall or you know he he crew chief for my dad for a lot of years even at a young age i mean i’m talking 17 18 years old and he was calling the shots on well i say he was calling shots him my dad my dad was calling the shots telling scott what to do and it’s because i got to understand the lingo yeah making sure yeah yeah he was making sure it was getting done so marty and i were a little younger and you know we got we you know we rode in the van and i’ll always kind of cling to mom and dad a lot you know um growing up and and even times when marty and scott or at least marty didn’t go to the races i would still be right there i want to go to all the races and do all that stuff all right so then uh how did how was it for you clark growing up in the raising family yeah um my earliest memory of being at the racetrack was i was probably five or six years old and i think dad was working correct me if i’m wrong at ppc and he was gonna drive a super late model for him and he was down at hickory testing i remember being six years old and just just being down there with him that day they were testing and it was just taking it all in and and pretty much from then on i was hooked um and then i got a dirt bike when i was you know that that same year i think and i thought i wanted to race dirt bikes for a little bit that was scary we did we went to a couple events and it was like we got to get him off this dirt bike or he’s gonna die you know what i mean or i’m gonna die cause laurie’s gonna kill me one one of the two things is gonna happen so yeah and then i was about 10 years old and and um dad came home with a with a go-kart one day austin dillon had come across a bunch of go-karts or something something like that and dad got a hold of one of them and uh brought it home and and we started working on it and and went racing there a handful of times and uh from then on it just kind of snowballed yeah because your dad works up there right well he yeah i didn’t used to yeah i worked for stuart haas now that’s right yeah right um yeah that’s where marty’s working up there yeah marty’s at rcr right yeah and then you actually uh y’all wrecked out yesterday yeah man coach i spot for colt custer and and cole ran so good all night i mean we ran top top eight or ten the biggest part of the night and uh we had ourselves in contention there at the end and they got the blocking and banking off each other and we just got caught up in it you know and and it kind of runs a good night but uh man i enjoy i enjoy spotting him he’s a good he’s a good kid good talent and um he you know think we’ll shake the monkey off her back and get things turned around for sure yeah sure he’s got he does have a lot of talent i know whenever i was building engines for him he’d come in the shop him and his dad yeah and um so my question to him was are you ken to general george armstrong custer so what was his reply to that he said i don’t i don’t know he said i could be but i don’t know uh yes we all know how that went down right anyway so all right so you’re growing up and you started out in motorcycle well that’s kind of where you built up your nerves probably too yeah you know it was just bravery yeah it was it was just something something with a motor and wheels you know and and that was that was enough for me and and going into go-karts it was you know it was just something else kind of like that but i could relate more to to my dad and my grandpa and and my uncle by doing it and and you know the very first the very first night he raised a go-kart or was the afternoon actually it was a sunday afternoon we went to wood leaf and he you know how old are you nine eight or nine maybe something he was little and he’d go out on the racetrack and he would make like three quarters of a lap and he would spin out and we’d come in and we would work on it and he would go back out and he would make like three quarters of lap maybe a whole lap and then he would spin out and it was like oh yes he spun out how many times you spent out a lot yeah yeah and and i was like clark i was like you have to you may have to slow down just a little bit to you know you may have to just get the feel and the cart wasn’t right by any means but it was like and he got so frustrated i remember he was crying and he had red dirt on him and the dirt was running down he’s like is i just don’t know if i’m gonna be able to do something like you will figure it out you know and then the next time we win it got a little better a little better and the next thing you know you’re winning and and uh run up front so there you go i raced out there and uh it’s just kind of like a big circle it feels like it’s always turning yeah and i had the wrong gear so i was like yeah a couple laps and i was getting laughed whatever clark ended up out in the corn you know you get out the corn field but there’s no walls on the back street so you get out in the corn field and or is it it’s bean fields soybeans yeah he knows i thought it was corn it was beans no it’s beans out there yeah you saw it firsthand yeah there you go oh my god all right so i’m gonna have to go turn the air on are you really yeah it’s hot it really is i’ll get it so anyway um all right so then you got into go-karts and then where where did you go from there so we were in the the flat cart style cart for a little bit and then um and then about the time i was 12 or 13 um we built our own outlaw cart or box stock it was uh it was basically still a go-kart but it had a wing kind of looked like a sprint car no no suspension or anything like that on it and then we run that for three or four years and won the championship in that and then we built a bigger version of that the open and i ran that pretty much all through high school middle school and high school and um did that until i got into the super trucks with ashley and dwight huffman racing so before he what he’s talking about on the on the box stock and and um what they call a winged outlaw cart they race those over at millbridge speedway in salisbury and we raced there for a lot of years the dilemma that we had racing go-karts was all the go-kart races were on the weekends and i was always going on the weekends because i was always spotting so we our go-kart career kind of consisted of november to january i mean we raced in the winter time any time there was a big go-kart race in the wintertime we would go to it and then we knew some guys that were that were racing at um milbridge carson ellage was one of them who’s good friends with clark and some other people and and we ended up phil gould ended up i actually worked with him and his kid raced out there and uh we built a we built a car to race out there so we raced on wednesday nights for i don’t know from the time i was probably 13 to 17. yeah you probably i probably heard you because i lived right through the woods okay okay and so i could always hear them out there on wednesday nights and on saturdays and i raced out there several times i got three trophies i built my own engines yeah so and i told them it’s not legal so you just whatever so he they started her right yeah i’m going to have fun if you have to throw me out or i’m not taking my engine apart you’re the marty robbins yeah i was marty robbins of the race that’s it well the good thing is i had all my neighbors were racing with me too we all come together and so i built the engines for them too i just built mine a little bit better so of course yeah you know but uh but that was a good track i like it out there yeah it is and and uh ashley and jeremy burnett who own the place now uh they’ve done a magnificent job with that place if you’ve got kids and they want to race that’s a that’s a place to go i mean they they do a really good job they try to get out of there at a decent hour they actually race on wednesday nights and i think saturday nights tuesday wednesday and and saturday night so they race like three nights a week i know that’s where carson ella as you mentioned she got her start there and she was really good winning a lot of races and also i don’t know what kyle busch’s son’s name is but he’s out there racing brexit brexit yeah he runs out there now yeah a lot of a lot of the a lot of the nascar community people are out there a matter of fact clark when the first night he run i think you and you had to run against max mclaughlin and yeah he uh i run second to max mclaughlin the first night we run out there yeah so there’s been i mean there’s been a lot of racing people that never heard of him [Laughter] we were trying go matt shepard there you go you know you asked somebody a couple times and if they’re just like yeah then you say all right we’re not asking them exactly there’s more people out there right yeah they’re sure as a matter of fact the night we had your dad on i sent mike a text saying tell max that we didn’t have room for him tonight because we have the legendary tommy houston tonight and then i’m like here tonight and you’re not right that’s it man yeah all right so then how did you get your start in what was your next level yeah so after after running the opens at uh at mill bridge we got hooked up well dad got hooked up with ashley huffman not i’m not too sure how all that came about i think they might have got together at was it the hickory speedway reunion yeah um actually doug hauser i talked to doug houser who who used to help my brother marty at the hickory speedway union and doug’s like i had been talking to him before and is like we we’re ready to do something different you know we’re ready to move on and he said well you need to talk to ashley he’s got this truck and and we had been to a few of the southeast super truck series races in the past and knew that the series was kind of a neat deal and they traveled to four or five different racetracks and um so i got hooked up with ashley and he’s like yeah let’s take him to test and clark can he can kind of feed in on the rest yeah so pretty much all i got from that was dad called me one day and said hey ashley huffman’s got this truck we’re gonna go test it i didn’t i didn’t really know all the the ins and outs of it but uh well we went and we went one day and it was it was a cold i think it was raining yeah it was it was kind of raining and we went this asphalt this is not dirt so yeah we went tested and i made about half a lap and stomped the gas pedal and smacked the wall with the left front um i i thought i probably wasn’t never going to be a race car driver and that happens we got it fixed it bent the spindle and we we casper casting clock oh he’s my crew chief now he’s he’s really sharp and works hard and he got it he got it fixed and got me back on the track and i was out there it ended up it started it wasn’t raining to begin with and then it started raining as i was making laps and uh we ended up turning some pretty good laps and went back at next week or it might have been a week later and run i run my first ever full body stock car race to southeast supertrucks and i ended up running third and it was pretty stout field i think it was a 15 car field something like that selling outside pole yeah selling outside ralph carnes and it was it was really good night it really helped build my confidence and um from there on it’s just kind of history yeah kind of where i’m at now so there you go and then now you’re winning races yeah yeah i think we’ve won six now six or seven yeah so it’s been going really good in the championship hunt this year leading points by about five points so that’s the southeast super truck yeah series yep touring series we go to uh anderson tri county um where else we go kingsport tennessee there’s a handful a handful of tracks we just do just one he just won the other night at wake county speedway which is down in raleigh yeah very good congratulations on that i appreciate it and uh you just keep doing what you’re doing apparently so uh i guess your biggest influence probably was who getting into probably probably all three my dad and uncle marty and my grandpa you know really they all they all come to marty comes to most of my races and dad and pop my grandpa they come to they’re there at every one so you know they’re always filling me in on what i need to do and how i need to drive these different tracks and they’ve been a really big influence to me that’s cool i saw that picture with your grandfather in there in victory lane oh yeah i’m sure he’s very proud that’s pretty cool all right so we’re gonna take a quick break right and we’re gonna be right back to racing reach with him we’ve got andy and uh clark houston in here with us so we’ll be right back [Music] is carpet care and we’re back on racing groups with him right here on 5 50 a.m and 92.9 fm w-a-m-e radio that is and on d him i am on youtube so if you’d like to see us here live in the randy marin studio go to damn i am that’s ham with two rims of course i am like sam i am i do not eat green eggs and ham even though i ate anything have you seen me lately so anyway oh yeah you know that’s right okay here we go all right so clark brought me this nice decal and uh where can people get a hold of these if they wanted to do you have a place yet well i’ve got i’ve got all those right now they can come see me at any of the southeast super truck races i’d be more than happy to give them one for free um but if you need anything done like that or any t-shirts made duck graphics and hildebrand north carolina is the place to go and they’ll they’ll hook you up and they’ll bring you some good-looking shirts come on over and stand between them right here yeah they’re just going on that’s just sharp come on over this right there clark’s got actually got a vintage went on very good doug graphics been in business for a lot of years um yeah i actually worked there as a teenager all right well or you know close to my teenage years and then clark he worked there as well so oh yeah very good yeah and i guess derek i don’t know if i mentioned that you weren’t here with us but you’ve been on camera all the time as well you’re usually kind of like one of those behind the scenes kind of guys anyway aren’t you yeah i’m just uh one of added those if you will there you go you know i was growing up watching these guys yeah uh race because we uh uh we we went to school kinda at the same time and uh so yeah we we didn’t know andy we didn’t know you may have but i didn’t know how lucky we were growing up around hickory speedway and almost every saturday night and clark i know i know when what you’re saying about you would have liked to have been there because every almost every saturday night we had tommy houston we had harry gant we had jack ingram we had sam aard tommy ellis pete silva uh boscolo it was a who’s who bob bob presley bob presley morgan shepard you know we had it was a who’s who of late model uh racers at that time and they were there almost every saturday night it was awesome it was time you know the thing about it is and derek and his wife michelle they’re they’re really good friends of ours and we spend a lot of time together and they travel and watch clark race some you know whenever they can and uh getting back to that though you know times were different uh people people back in in those days in the 80s 90s even you know even up to the 2000s um they wanted a place to go they wanted they wanted on the weekends i mean they needed somewhere to go well now you have social media and you’ve got all this technology and and you know you can sit at home and watch i can sit at home and watch his southeast super truck series races you know on a on a uh a feed but um it was it was different times then you know and you would have bush races at hickory or or big late model races and the places would be completely packed but i think sporting events in general are suffering because of of technology and and you can sit at home and and watch it there yeah and have really cool camera angles yeah for sure and you don’t even miss a wreck right that’s correct they got cameras and they got a replay versus what the 70s mid 70s when you would sit there saturday afternoon and an hour and a half show on abc’s wide world of sports you get 37 seconds of the cars going down the back streets of daytona yeah maybe three cameras or something you know i think that was a 43 in there that’s right yeah so i know whenever i was going to the track the stands were packed full at all these and i was there from 95 to 2001 right which i know you raised somewhere just outside of that i guess no that was that was the air i mean 96 wasn’t it yeah i mean i i ran cup in 2001 in the mcdonald’s car and and my career my career kind of started in the early 90s uh racing late models at hickory and you know was fortunate enough to win the championship at hickory in 94. and then about the 97 mark we we started going nascar truck racing craftsman truck racing at the time is what it was called and uh you know we won won several races there and and then got the opportunity to go cup racing with cal wells and it’s kind of like you know you you if you looked at a graph it’s like the graphs going this way and then after the cup deal it kind of levels off and then pretty quickly after that it starts going the wrong way you know what i mean and i realized that i was i was chasing something that was that was going to be hard to you know i there there was a couple of decisions i made that was going to be hard to recover from and i just you know i got tired i got tired of of every single year wondering what your next move was going to be and i got the opportunity to to start spotting for um ppc keith barnwell who’s actually a good friend of the families and and still spots to this day he spots for at uh spire motorsports where clark works for justin haley but anyway keith had called me and he was at ppc and asked me if i would be interested in taking a job there as a spotter and a little bit of a coach to some guys and that was in that was in 2000 i guess and from that point on that’s that’s what i’ve been doing you know and i don’t regret it i mean i’ve got i’ve had great jobs i’ve had you know a good career of spotting with with several really really good drivers and and had some success there so it’s just another chapter of things you do yeah and that’s about uh the time marty stopped was i don’t know his last year 2001 or two yeah and i think i might i think i might have sent a message in whenever he was on and and it’s like i did i kind of followed marty’s lead a little bit he he left or you know he he kind of decided that he was gonna we raced i mean that’s what we did we grew up racing we’ve been around racing it’s like we’re not really going to do anything else that’s what we’re going to do and that’s what we want to do and even if it’s not in the capacity of driving which i still feel like marty and myself both could have been really really successful if we had been given the right opportunities or made the right moves and there’s there’s a hundred guys out there that are the same way you know if just given the the right circumstances they could they could make it happen but sometimes it don’t work that way right i know i was mentioning marty i was this jackman in 2001 and then you know things were starting to go down and he’s like you know talking about the the other drivers kind of circling around oh yeah it’s a shark hole yeah at the same time that’s kind of when the sport started to revolutionize and get peek out on you know it built up all that momentum in the 80s late 80s and 90s and we were at the height of it around 2000 and on and then a little a few of the dynamics about ownership you know that three million dollars didn’t carry you anymore right a year right now it was 50 million well and and then now it’s a it’s a just trying to survive type of sport to where these team owners will settle for not winning to be able to get their bills paid you know yeah and that means and i guess what i mean by that is you know anymore 75 of the guys are paying their way or or they have a company paying their way or they you know they they have a rich grandpa or parents or whatever and that’s what it is now yeah most of the owners are conceded to that’s what that takes to survive anymore yeah exactly yeah yeah and another thing that happened in 2001 of course was when earnhardt passed away yeah there was a lot of fans that that dropped off yep definitely definitely a lot of uh large voice but i’m gonna say you know you say that and yes it definitely was the turning point in nascar as far as fan base and things like that but they still had several really really good years after that you know for the next the next four five six years were still just sell out crowds and then we had the recession kind of hit yeah that’s right 2009 and that hurt like you said it hurt all sports for a long time um i i believe at the time you had big fans that would go to five six seven races a year right and they planned maybe two of those would be every year with gangs and friends would get together at maybe watkins glen or somewhere now they were having to choose one or two so they weren’t doing the big party they were trying one or two maybe they didn’t go to before right yeah and now i think a lot of the fan base i mean you believe me you still have tons of die hard nascar fans and and you know if they were if they are a die-hard nascar fan just just like derrick if they’re a die-hard nascar fan they’re going to they’re going to continue to be one but then now it’s kind of like you get a little bit of a lot of guys are just you see fans in the stands that are first-time people and and you know they’re gonna they’re gonna take their buddies and go to the race well hopefully you hopefully they they get an experience that brings them back you know but you there’s there’s a lot of people right now that are going to nascar races that are going to them for the first time you know so that’s usually all it takes is to get you in there one time me too that’s what i think that’s what i say if you come and get that thrill you can feel that vibration you’re there bowman gray stadium on a saturday night once you will be back absolutely i did that this year for the first time the mad house and you will be back right i went back the next week i couldn’t believe it it was it was a mad house it was unbelievable i mean if you want good saturday night entertainment and you don’t mind seeing the middle finger and you don’t mind you know a lot of cigarette smoke and a few rednecks don’t worry your colors right unless you really want to go at it but it is it is a prison it’s awesome a little bit of fighting and stuff going on yeah what is it what’d marty say here he said uh where’s oh where’s dicky hoping he would call him yeah he’s trying to do that is he on there yeah dickies like to have dicky call in here yeah i met dickie’s daughter she she ran the front desk at a hotel there in richmond uh when we were checking in one year and that was that was her claim to fame so unless she was lying to me but i don’t think she was she said hey my dad was the one that climbed up on the fence you put them up to it is that right young lady i dared him that of one he’s our hero yeah that’s pretty good that’s good stuff there so dicky you got the number i do believe i’m going to say hello to rachel rodman and oh happy birthday great rachel yeah we told rachel happy birthday on youtube yeah i told her on uh on the radio this morning so we said happy birthday and i played harmonica of course but uh all right as i usually do right there yes all right in dickie dana’s areas he said amy is is my baby he says okay so amy would have been yeah this was it um i can’t remember the name of the hotel it was in short pump and she was working at the front desk there so yeah and this has been this has probably been four or five years ago so marty’s asking again who is clark’s favorite drummer i’d have to go i’d have to go with marty houston on that one i don’t know a whole lot of drummers if i’m being honest there you go i know he kept wanting to sit over there he is a show he is a really good drummer by the way and he’s been oh my gosh growing up i mean you just hearing him thing over and over and i have i have like zero musical talent you know what i mean but it’s like growing up and he just beat on them drums every day yeah that’s right exactly [Music] that’s right i wanted to ask you clark if you had any uh musical talent not that i know of there’s just he’s still looking for it i’m still looking for colin my oldest son colin he just bought a guitar so um i think he’s i think he’s trying to pull out his inner musical talent maybe i think he’s just trying to pick up chicks that’ll do it yeah that’s right that’s right yeah so he’s he’s gonna he’s he’s going to teach himself how to play the guitar i told him to get that uh is it the chet atkins the chet atkins uh book or the there was a video or a vhs tape but we got to find a vcr yeah i don’t think we still have one of those probably so chad atkins has his different style of yeah the finger picking kind of stuff but he was very good jody brook hello to jody phil yep jody kesterson oh is that right that’s her maiden name okay she’s listening well you know these people that one yeah my grandmother and her mother were best of friends that she’s a sweet lady jody is hey jody yeah she’s from upstate new york and the finger lakes geneva new york right at the top of the lake where everybody needs to go if you go to watkins glen so many people head south and go to ithaca and corning i’m like you’ve never been to geneva or any of the places up at the top the lake the drive is gorgeous yeah in the cliffs you know the fall down there where the glaciers cut out the seneca lake and cuba lake all right yeah all right clark you over there shaking your head yes don’t i told you earlier don’t you haven’t been there don’t watch glenn he’s never been watching the pictures i’ve seen watched it on espn it’s amazing what you’re going to learn yeah that’s right linda jenks up there in pennsylvania she’s up near scranton i think well wilkes wilkes barre wilkes bear yeah yeah all right there you go not wiltsboro that’s right that’s here yes don clark here in statesville not statusville as the gps tends to say and uh brett troutman his whole family’s tuned in hello to y’all and mike bear mike barry i believe he’s in ohio if i’m not mistaken am i right about that and jim dooley is up in virginia he says uh dickie dennis had a rough night apparently so all right you know they get they get on here in the mornings on our facebook live when i’m on the radio and then they’ll start having a conversation it’s pretty funny i bet it is yeah and jim dooley’s a descendant of the tom dooley hang your head tom dooley yeah so i always tell him hang her head jim dooley so [Laughter] uh all right so mark uh we’re back to not already andy yep we’re back today people call me marty all the time so yeah yeah it’s funny and think about is marty says people call him andy all the time and half the time he just rolls with i never roll with it and that’s no that’s that’s no disrespect of marty i just i like i always recorrect them like yeah or andy you know they’ll say hey marty or andy you know and then i’ll be like oh i’m sorry but i always tend to correct them yeah well y’all were both cool guys i i’ll tell you whenever i was the jackman for marty i i looked up to him i thought man hit this one cool guy you know he just wait carried himself yeah don’t get carried away are you talking about marty and andy being cool how about the father one of my i was nervous to go around you saw me the night i met him i was like oh man he was like a desperado he reminds me of like the old west oh yeah you know all right he’s a fish he’s a fish and desperado he’s bad he loves to fish yeah that’s cool you know well and speaking of his mustache right he he i believe that’s where uh earnhardt got the idea for the tommy houston mustache he probably did he probably did and i think dale when dale first come along i think he looked up to my dad a lot you know what i mean and and wanted to i say patterned himself after it but he didn’t he didn’t race anything like my dad not at all my dad thought that dale was actually going to kill himself the first few years he raised because he tore up a lot of stuff but he figured it out he you know he he did okay yeah you know he did okay yeah he he figured he would rank others before they wrecked him i remember one time and i don’t remember what year it was but i was in indianapolis in a rental car and i drove up to a traffic light and i looked to my left and dale was in the passenger seat and j.r was driving and it was the week that dale had been in the caribbean scuba diving and he shaved his mustache off and i was like what happened to this he took off from the light i was like wow funny funny story about that being in indy i got another one that was just about like that we left the hotel just a couple weeks ago we raced there at the brickyard the first road race which was crazy you know but anyway we left the hotel one morning to go the track we pulled up to the first stop light that we got to out of the hotel and pulled up beside us was none other than mario andretti by himself in a rental car and tim fiedowa who spots for harvick was driving the van and tim looked over at mario and and kind of gave a twist to the wheel a little bit mario looked at him and mario when the light turned green gas that thing and spawned tires to the next stoplight and none of us not one person in that van had our phone out to be filming because if we would it would have been it would have it would have it would have been viral yeah but it was it was the coolest experience and i’ve had a long time probably had your jaws dropped oh it was we were we were laughing so hard we couldn’t hardly drive you know it was it was yeah yeah it was great yeah that’s cool gene hammett said he’s watching hey gene’s good friends of ours too yeah kit rodriguez is down in port st lucie florida hey clark do you know ryan sparks i do know ryan sparks ryan sparks says clark go to bed gotta do work tomorrow brian sparks yeah i was gonna ask is that your boss because you know spartans i just put two and two together uh clark works inspire motorsports yeah they had a good weekend uh uh corey had a shot at winning and and uh justin hayley was a 16th and a sixth corner of the 16th and justin was six so so clark he’s got the he’s got the racing niche too and i guess he’s gonna make a career of it whether it’s driving or working on him or whatever well he’s starting out in the right building right clark that’s right alex quickie yep that’s the home ala quick his first big shop there inspired tell him what you say yeah we think he’s still in there what do you tell your mom when like getting to work in the morning oh yeah you don’t ever want to be the first one in there because he could be in there yeah so his mom says do you get to work early and clark says yeah i’m usually the third one there and she says third who beat you and uh the team manager greg beats him and and the other one was alan quickie yeah but i think he’s there all the time how about that he was so dedicated to that sport and his mission and his accomplished mission yeah that’s right he was he did it his way right won the championship all right dickie said he tried to call twice so i missed it i was busy so marty did ask another question all right he said ask andy about the p5 car he used to draw yes i didn’t know how to make nines my dad growing up my dad was always number 95 and i know most people that that listen to the show probably remember him as number six but all through his late model sportsman career he was always 95. he he didn’t start running number six until he started in the bush series and as a little kid i i didn’t know i didn’t know which way my nine went so all my cars were p5 so but then you know then when i started when i started racing i wanted you know i want to be 95 too just like my dad so uh my whole late model career was 95. you know i should have made it p5 i should have just been p5 that would have been yeah that’d been unique you know and then everybody could say what’s the p4 and i’d be like i don’t know is that is that why every time you qualified fifth you would get out and get so excited you were p5 p5 that’s right that’s what i was thinking and then you’re just going to set your goal for finishing position five yeah qualifying you got to win right mm-hmm mark [Music] we usually qualify on the pole and then they do an invert and we end up starting p5 what do you say what do you what do you attribute to that too what’s that your ability or the car or what serious i’m not joking like i put that the truck i am i’m in is isn’t a very good truck it is it’s very good but it takes some credit take some credit it is a great truck it’s a good truck but i mean it’s a very good truck casper and ashley they bring a good piece for me and and i drive it as hard as i can every lap of the race so that’s the response because you know all the cup owners ganassi and hendrick and roush they all listen to this show every week they’re all out here it’s a combination of things yeah it does it takes it always takes a total package right that’s right all the pieces got to be there yeah what were you going to say about to marty about the p5 i was just going to say that he needs to he that’s about enough questions you know that’s about how many i sent in whenever he was on the show so yeah [Laughter] he hadn’t texted him too many so clark there’s a question on here you like country music is that i love country music who’s your favorite artist i think rachel wanted to know that well i really like 90s country i really like brooks and dunn i listen to a lot of brooks and dunn but uh any 90s country i’m i’m probably listening to it on my way or to to or from work so but no particular artist that you brooks and duncan yeah cool very good you can listen to this station in 92 points absolutely and then switch it over to 5 50 a.m if you start getting further away yeah there you go that’s where we play all the good stuff i remember back in 1992 i was shooting for the scene as a stringer cindy karam who now is cindy elliott chase’s mom she hired me to go down to the speedway and brooks and dunn were there with richard childress childerson there were four or five different country artists i can’t even remember them all and they all took the richard petty driving the car oh troy aikman was there too oh really billy bates you know i was at the concert i was at the concert at shot more speedway on pole day whenever whalen was there and they had the big they had the big riot and they threw all the beer bottles and stuff across the front church i was i was young i was 10 or 9 or 10 and all the all the nascar racing people and crews and drivers and stuff their families got to go in the infield grass anyone that had grandstand tickets had to stay in the grandstands well they didn’t like that too good and then the hells angels showed up and then they didn’t like that even worse i think the biggest problem was they had free beer i think they had free beer and and i think just a lot of people got intoxicated and got acting crazy but i remembered as a little kid and whalen he showed up late and he didn’t play long and it was you can read about that on you can look on your google and there’s articles on it but interesting speaking of speaking of old time country you know but it was you know that’s another one of those memories that you you know you talk about the racing and cherishing the memories that was another one that i remember yeah that’s a neat story yeah yeah that you were there too see that’s the the part that kind of personally i never saw coming was that i thought we’d always have and we still do we had a tommy houston andy and marty and we know you know we got phil tell people about pole day paul charlotte murder speedway pole day the grandstands packed out wednesday night for one round of qualifying even yeah even when they went to wednesday night you know and and just just people new fans don’t get to experience that road was covered with everybody’s family that’s like friends that say can you get me a pass to charlotte no yeah pole day was a big deal you know yeah i had a good pitch a really cool picture that was in winston cup illustrated that had um had me standing behind nemechek i’ll build engines for him qualifying engines back then and he usually qualified pretty good and he had second round fastest but he he had bumped a wall or whatever and but uh you can see in the background the stands were just completely packed like you said right yeah and winston qualifying you know well you know and back in those days they had two rounds of qualifying if you you either had to make it in on first round which like if the field was 43 first round would be like they would take 25 and then everyone else would either have to rerun or they would have to stand on their time well my first time i ever of a cup car was in 2000 the year 2000 and that was the last year of of two rounds of qualifying so i remember going to the last race of the year at homestead and i just totally missed whatever qualifying first round and i was like i was last or second to last or whatever i was really bad well second round qualifying was the next morning on saturday after an xfinity series practice or something it was like the racetrack was going to be way slow and way off well we go out to qualify or we go out on the line get ready to qualify and i remember ted musgrave walking up to me and he said after this qualifying round is your plane that you’re flying on going back to charlotte or to concord and i said i don’t know and he said well because if they are he says i want to go with y’all. and i said well y’all i said i’m i’m i’m getting ready to qualify here and get myself in this race i’m not planning on going home and he laughed at me ted ted laughed at me and i was the only i was the only car that rerun second round qualifying that made the race and actually actually made the race really solid like i ended up being like 20 28 or something like that but i think he made me mad enough i think he made me mad enough that i just went out there and got it done you know what i mean but uh i remember that story very well as well that made your focus a little bit yesterday for sure some old stories of mine that qualify and i i remember going to charlotte in the 70s playing hooky from school my dad and i go down there because they raced or they qualified on wednesday for the race on sunday for the either coke or back then it was the world 600 and so we go down there on wednesday and watch you know i’m watching the 30 car the red 30 car walter ballard owned car and i look back on it now and i think i bet it was dale senior driving that car when i was going there right but that was before he went to rod osterlund but um we’d go down there and you’re right andy they qualified like the top 20 positions then they’d come back on thursday and qualify the next you know fill the field but then i remember also you were talking about alan kawiki uh was up there on one wednesday night watching qualifying and alan qualified on the poll at 184 average 184 and we were thinking that was totally outrageous in that in that you know right and that was that was amazing yeah yeah it was one of the first night’s claw of night qualifying right i got you so pretty cool yeah the neat thing was is that second round of qualifying usually it was saturday morning it was friday right right you know exactly you’d have to you’d have to go sit in your hotel room yeah you think it slipped up for some i mean think about it guessing as a driver you know well and the thing about is after you had 15 minutes after the first round of qualifying to to either stand what what they called standing on your time is you would go to the nascar truck and you would say i would like to requalify or the lap that you ran that day you could stand on your time and that would be your lap of record or you could rerun well most of the time people stood because the next day was going to be way slower you know but if you were if you if you were out of the top you know 39 or 40 or whatever and you know and you didn’t have a provisional you had to you had to rerun you had to rerun you know so that’s kind of the situation i got in at homestead that i had to rerun um and everyone else stood on there everyone else that knew they were going to be in the race stood on their time but but did did you make eye contact with mustard after that i don’t ever remember i don’t ever remember i just remember the conversation and remember ted had to find a white ride home and it wasn’t with me you were gonna make sure that and he did he did go you had already told him ain’t going home not going home yeah he laughed at me so yeah how about that he’s he hangs around here in statesville yeah he was actually having a good day a month and a half ago yeah he he and i were teammates at ultra uh in the truck series there later in both of our careers you know what i mean but ted ted’s a great guy and and we got to spend a lot of we’ve got to spend a few years together you know and and and stuff but i don’t know that i ever told him that story maybe i did tell him the story i don’t remember but i don’t think i ever told him the story did he win a championship over there at ultra um is that his championship yeah i think he had one he had one taken away and then i think he ended up he ended up winning the championships next year i believe all right so we’re going to take a quick break and we’ll be right back to racing groups with ham we got andy and clark houston in here with us so we’ll be right back hey we’ve got ryan scott here with randy marion in statesville tell us about your pre-owned cars billy buck let me ask you something if you were to buy a pre-owned vehicle wouldn’t you want to buy with confidence that is what randy marion here in statesville has we have got our certified pre-owned programs with chevrolet ford and lincoln 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with us their father son and son and grandson of tommy houston as we all know from the hickory fame and in racing in the the bush series and he was he won a lot of races he did yes and so all right so who we got on the phone with us this is me david how y’all doing good evening tracy and good evening to the houstons and phil and everybody it’s like the walton’s family i guess yeah that’s the kind of thing yeah all right so we got dickey dennis on the line with us the infamous fence climber from 2014 in richmond virginia he stopped the race dickie how you doing bud yeah those fun times man i’m doing great how are y’all doing i’m doing good i heard my brother um you know he he kind of picked your brain on exactly what went down that night but that was uh that was a pretty epic moment in nascar so you have one of the you have one of the epic moments in nascar for sure yeah how about that dicky i hear i hear somewhere i hear somewhere that it is in um a nascar i guess log book or something like the um first time there’s ever been a caution flag for um spectator participation yeah i would say you might be right have you ever thought about stealing the pace car at talladega have you ever thought about that there’s going to be a rather large party in richmond coming up pretty pretty quick you guys want to um hook up and i can get you guys over to where most of us will be hanging out okay okay maybe maybe i’ll have to you can maybe go through ham and we’ll get that info and maybe we can we can hang out i think richmond this this year is going to be a little different it’s a it’s a one-day show we’re going to run xfinity in the afternoon and then we’re going to run cup at night so i think we’re probably just going to be coming up for the day on on saturday but i think dickie said he was going to do something special in richmond didn’t you dickie yeah richard i’m crazy this time around you promised me buddy no i’m not i’m not allowed on the property but there is some private property right adjacent to it that some friends of mine own and and and there’s always a huge amount of rvs it’s a pretty good-sized campground most of the campgrounds are going away around richmond right now because of amazon buying up lots and lots of property race tracks are that way i know chicago land speedway’s all amazon buildings around it you know oh hey i forgot hello marty i forgot to say yeah marty’s tuned in too on the on the youtube so yeah okay hey dicky so uh derek said he was there in 2000 yeah jim was jim was right i had a quite interesting night last night i’ve been fighting this hangover all day today i feel pretty good i got out and i had to unload a very large u-haul brook sweat and i think i got all the poison out of me i’m feeling a lot better now well that’s good yeah i know right flush out the toxins all right so gene do you have any good memories from that day that evening there at richmond in 2014. dickie all i’ve got to say is that my wife and i were in the stands and and you were not too far down in front of us just off to our left and i remember seeing you and i’m thinking oh my gosh this guy i hope he doesn’t roll off backward down onto the racing surface because that would be really really bad news and um i kept wondering okay what are they going to do what’s nascar going to do and they finally threw the caution and i was thinking okay okay good good good they got to slow these cars down because i didn’t know i didn’t know if dicky if you were going to lose your balance or if the fence was going to give in or or what but um i my lasting memory of that is how many people greeted you when you got back down to the bottom that was you had a lot of grief i really really truly appreciate the concern but believe me brother i would not have attempted if i didn’t have a clue at what i was doing yeah you look like a trained professional getting up on there you know you look like you had it fully under control from what from what you’ve said uh in in weeks since then on on this show um i think you were uh you were better than i thought you were uh that night so uh yeah i think you were i think someone was was kind of putting you up to that were they nobody nobody had put me no one had put me up to it it was just like i was avoiding a fight there was going to be an issue in the in the bleachers and the guy behind me had built a beer on me and they were getting ready to be a big issue and i told him safest place for him was if i was saying you know that catch fence he told me i didn’t have you know and i proved him that i did have those that in fact yeah you did i guess you did a good thing you removed yourself from the situation that’s right yeah so i had to remove myself from the fence there was no way that they could have got up there to get me well they were not coming up there there’s a lot of my friends that there’s a lot of my friends that told me that i should have went ahead and did a victory lap around the whole fence right yeah tell them what you did in the military dickie oh i used to um when i first got out of my basic to my permanent duty station i was assigned to the 101st airborne in fort campbell kentucky and learned how to slide down ropes and repel out of helicopters and jump out of the back of helicopters into lakes and lots of stuff i stayed busy i was gone from home a lot overseas a lot we were in a ready react unit and you know when you get called up you got to go do what you got to do you know well thank you for your service yes sir that is in in so everybody the same thing everything is it’s all about the honor who we are yeah and and the thing about is uh with that being said ever you were you were definitely that was probably no big deal to you to climb up on that fence you know what i mean so but uh that’s cool diggy well thanks for calling man you got anything else you want to say while you’re on here no i’m good man i’m great i’m i’m thankful to um you know get get to be a part of the show and like i told you once before david i missed a lot of nascar while i was in the service and your show helps me get caught up on what it means good that’s cool yeah man really cool y’all have a great night man thanks dicky good to talk to you buddy talk to you in the morning you’re late later on see you later bye all right good deal picky dennis the infamous fence climber and marty your brother marty houston sent me this picture he said where the cool started there you go that is cool matter of fact i think uh i’ll show that to the camera i think uh clark you had that as your profile picture at one point in time or something it was it was my my screen saver it was a screensaver for quite a while i did want to ask you how cool is it to uh like when you get around other kids and all and i mean in school and are they like you know i’m sure you probably told them who your grandfather was oh yeah and your dad i mean and your uncle yeah for sure i think it was probably the way the sport was is probably a lot cooler for for dad and marty and scott when they were growing up just because the sport was i don’t want to say it was thriving a lot more but it was it was a lot more popular like you said you know people would go to the track on weekends and stuff like that yeah and um but oh i still i still love to show it off you know hey this is my dad you know driving race cars or yeah absolutely andy isn’t he tommy’s son that’s what most people say from for all of us you know yeah because what you’re talking about back then clark is you had guys like your grandfather who had driven for 20 years you know so their names were synonymous especially in the southeast you know and now that it’s opened up nationwide and more internationally we’ve got international drivers that are driving yeah right yeah i mean and they do an amazing job and even you know getting back to what y’all were saying about uh hickory hickory speedway on a saturday night um and naming all those guys those guys would be there every saturday night and they were guys that were from hickory or taylorsville or asheville or or you know around this area morganton places like that conover those guys were from here and those were the guys that were racing there now it’s like guys from all over and and no disrespect to that because they want to race at hickory because it you know it’s how famous it is that’s where the nascar stars are born a lot of guys want to race there but even when i ran late models there uh most of the guys that i raced late models against there were there were some guys that were transplants but most of them were local guys you know and and i think that’s what changed the fan base a little bit local racing fan base because people locally come out to see their local hero and that’s one thing about bowman gray stadium still to this day you know you got burt myers you got tim brown you got guys that race there every saturday night and those fans come to see those guys well a lot of these other short tracks you know these guys come and go and they’re there a year or half a year or two years or whatever and then they’re gone doing something else and it’s hard to you know it’s hard to build a fan base that way mm-hmm yeah true you can see that so speaking of fan base so clark where do you see yourself going from from here on you know as long as i’m driving race cars i’m happy being around racing you know i love being around racing uh you know i’d love to i’d love to go on and do do big things you know go cup racing or xfinity racing or whatever but that’s not the if that’s not meant to be then then i just want to be around racing you know whether it be spotting or working on race cars or or anything really you know i just i just love being around the sport yeah there you go uh so you don’t have a girlfriend do you i do have a girlfriend oh okay i’ve had a girlfriend for about two years well that’s good what’s her name brooke brooke okay she comes to all the races of course she does she’s supportive that’s great yeah she supports him she supports him well she reminds me a lot of of my wife lori and myself when when we were that age and racing kind of on that same level it’s uh they’re it’s very similar situation for sure okay so you sure your wife’s been with you all a long long time yeah a long time um 20 we’ve been married 26 years and uh we were together for another seven eight nine numbers right i’m gonna throw a bunch of numbers if you throw a bunch of numbers then you don’t have to get it right see seven eight nine this is true yeah i’ve been married five six seven years see now it changes it’s like there’s a difference between five and seven yeah it is for sure but now um uh the the thing about clark is um you know we’ve got great support for him right now with with jeff klein and with alps mountain affordable hearing i mean that guy’s he’s been over backwards for clark and and when i was clark’s age um you know i had some some great support with alex little who owned country chair and he kind of did the same for me as what jeff is doing for clark and and uh you know not only not only jeff but ashley huffman all them guys at dwight huffman racing they’re they they’ve done a lot for for clark and myself and they let me come up there and hang out and bug them and work on their stuff and i enjoy it as well so once in a while they let them hop in their race car too and make some money i’ve made some laps i’ve made some laps in the last uh i don’t know a couple months how’d that feel it felt good but i’m not i’m not as fast as i once was i don’t feel like and me and clark we made laps back to back in the same vehicle and he’s he’s faster than me by a good little amount and it kind of tore me up i gotta i gotta work on it but you know these kids nowadays they irace they do all this stuff they got all these games on their phones and stuff i mean i’m i’m old i’m right direction i don’t have none of that you know so but it’s fun that’s good yeah they got quick reaction times now too so this client person to see how is he from out that way uh jeff klein he’s he’s from he’s from the hickory area okay yeah but um like i said they’ve got they’ve got a place at the beach because they have a location down there at the beach um an office down there and he’s in he’s in the mountains a lot up up around the boone area at another location he’s got location boone i think he’s got one in jonesville he’s got one in lincolnton hickory and ocean isle i believe yeah yeah so me and tracy are we have klein in our fami
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Andy & Clark Houston on Racing Routes with Hamm

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