Danny Way | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts – Episode 195

Danny Way | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts – Episode 195

well we are back huh we’re back at the nine club everybody today we have a very special special special guest mr danny way is with us stoked man thank you guys for having me dude how are you man good everything’s good yeah absolutely nice to be here hey we’re stoked to have you here thank you so much for coming by dude absolutely appreciate that how’s everything going with you right now you just got back recently from medellin right yeah i was down in columbia um just getting some uh basically just rehabbing from some injuries yeah long a bunch of injuries accumulating you know and and uh so i finally took a little time out to address it you know i had a couple surgeries and then flew to columbia like a couple days after i had these surgeries to get these stem cell treatments oh you flew there after the surgery yeah i had both my knees not any major surgeries but like cleaned out at a bunch of like debris floating around in my joints like cartilage and bone chips and bone spurs that were growing in there sure so i dealt with it all i did all three at once and then two days late later i flew to columbia because uh we we also did some micro fracturing on the cartilage surfaces where i have like you know where it’s really thin where it’s almost bone on bone so they like drill all these little holes inside the into the cartilage so that it’s you know it bleeds and it also you know kind of aerates the surface of the cartilage and that way when they put the stem cells in they would have an ability to integrate into the cartilage surface a little bit easier in return replicate what you know the cells that they’re uh they’re attaching to wow i love the fact that you were documenting that the whole way yeah yeah it was cool to watch man i liked it i don’t understand stem cells that much i’m not hip to it but i’m learning you know as we go and everything so it seems like a really great you know thing that’s being developed here but we just in the united states i think we need to get better at it here and figure it all out right now yeah that’s certified or right yeah it’s not fda approved well there there’s a difference in stem cells there’s the ones that i just had are called mesenchymal stem cells and those come from like the umbilical cord but they do do stem cell treatments in the united states and they and they’re called auto stem cells and they come from your bone marrow or your fat cells okay so but those cells have already been defined or coated you know yeah um so you know they’re and they’re also you know as old as you are and it’s it’s hard to get the volume that you would essentially need to be able to do any you know to make an improvement in those areas that they’re injecting so i think it’s almost like i mean i’ve done the treatments here and didn’t have much results from it um you know it’s great in concept but the real deal is is the mesenchymal stem cells and the only place you can do that is out of our country and there’s only a couple clinics that i know of in the world that are actually creditable you know yeah yeah i would say that or are trustworthy to go to okay so the one happens to be in columbia which is called bio excuse me bio accelerator bio bio accelerators the leader in you know stem cell uh science amazing how do you even find that out though like how do you like he’s got connections yeah but do you have someone that had yeah do you know someone that went there and you’re like oh cool like like or do you have references to that or uh absolutely um i actually got a referral from jason ellis he had gone down there and he was telling me he had good results and uh so he connected me with one of the you know one of the reps that essentially works for the company and i built a relationship with them and and next you know i was you know taken care of like flew flew myself down there but they treated me for free they took you know such good care of me and amazing um you know what uh and out of all the you know sponsors or or things that i get you know like ships that are gifts that i’ve had for my skateboarding career like i didn’t know i would end up this beat up at this stage of my you know life and career but it happened and you know to have support in that way at this junction is pretty amazing oh yeah i’m like you know i would have paid whatever i had to i guess you know because you get desperate and you’re just like man i just want to feel good i want to skate and um but yeah when they’re like no we got you that’s like wow oh that’s so cool yeah yeah that’s awesome that you documented it especially on their behalf and they’re being seen you know what i mean yeah it’s kind of like a right commercial so to say yeah no i mean that’s you know i think that’s the incentive for them is obviously they know that you know i’m going to be a spokesperson for them and they’re obvious you know they’re they’re pretty confident that the treatments are going to pay off sure because you know essentially they’re on blast because i am a walking you know testimonial so and i told them you know if you guys want me to be you know if you want me to represent them that represent this in that way like i got to be honest if it’s working or not yeah go ahead we want you to be completely honest because we know it’s going to work and right you’re you know you’re going to definitely feel great and it’s going to work wow so i’m only like six weeks into it um how do you feel now good they told me it would be about three months before i started to really notice but i’m also coming off the surgeries i just had so i’m kind of i don’t know what’s going on in there other than i am getting better you know i was on crutches up until maybe like a little over a week ago maybe two weeks now uh so i really don’t know where i’m at as far as what the stem cells are gonna yeah you’re healing in two different yeah absolutely wow but i am healing quick considering that’s good yeah so i you know i’m being i’m optimistic that i’m pretty confident based on you know the science behind it and it it really you know it all makes sense yeah so um i would have a hard time believing that it would not have any effect so speaking of the being a testimonial like you you’ve been through crazy injuries and still skated on i mean with the great wall of china you broke your foot like we’ll get into all that for sure surfing breaking your neck like i mean good god i mean yeah it’s been a rough road you know bro but like you said though as a skater like all we want to do is skate right and you just want to like whatever you whatever it takes you know whatever gets back to it you know we’ve all been we’ve all been there as skaters you know yeah i mean skateboarding is definitely an abusive you know hobby yeah definitely has like you know the consequences are are real and yeah you know it’s like especially when you skate like you yeah i mean you get to a point of no return too you know it’s like at this point i’m like well what’s another blowing out knee gonna matter which i just found out when i was in colombia that i do have another blowing acl on one of my knees oh so i’m like when did that happen i don’t even remember when it happened oh my goodness so i gotta figure that out that’s on my to-do list right now this is a random ques i never asked this hey it’s like how many bones have you broken and how many surgeries have you had do you even know i think it’s 28 procedures now from the orthopedic surgeries but the bone breaking thing like i’ve had you know a handful of broken bones but it’s more like it’s more torn ligaments and and and you know cartilage destruction that or de generation that’s like you know the things that you can’t really you know repair completely yeah like bones will heal pretty much you know they there’s a good chance that if you break your bone it’s going to heal and you’re not going to have any problems moving forward but when you rip soft tissue you know it just never heals the same it’s like you know tissue’s like fabric and once you tear it you can sew it back together but it’s never gonna you know have yeah it’s never gonna you know have the flexibility in the movement that it had before and then cartilage you just you know it’s like the analogy would be like you get one set of bushings in your trucks your whole life you know oh my goodness so like that’s it you know it’s like and they’re not making any more bushings so you got to take care of those bushings well but so that’s the whole thing with the stem cells is you know the the you know the science behind it is that should be able to produce new cartilage tissue and right and those areas that are pretty degenerative should be able to you know start to to heal bend themselves and get back to it wow it’s incredible man yeah i love it dude i love it injuries yes it’s a it’s a big part of you know my story but definitely a big part of skateboarding but i don’t know why i’ve had just like a run with this injury thing that’s like a trench that i can’t seem to climb out of ever you know i had a hip surgery a long time ago and i couldn’t imagine what you went through but it’s something that happened with me where like i’d even know it was coming you know one day it started to hurt yeah what the hell and like did that what happened at the end with these surgeries that came for you were you just like not feeling right at a certain point or something happened that kind of triggered like dude i got to get surgeries like the first like real surgery i had was i mean i had broke my elbow and and i had surgery on that but and that never healed correctly i can’t even straighten this arm but that was minor because you don’t walk on it you know it’s a different kind of injury because it’ll heal but you’re not like standing on it with your body weight every day um but was the first injury i had that kind of like started this whole you know domino effect of surgeries was i tweaked my knee and blew out my acl and then that you know i went through the rehab i had the surgery went through the rehab did like you know almost 12 months of of rehab before i started really pushing it and then like within like a month back in on you know back back in skating every day i just ran out of something and it wasn’t even that big of a deal but just the way i planted my foot i had like a little bit of a knee tweak but it just tore the ligament back in half and uh i still had to start all off like back from scratch again and you know at that point i was like wow i just had you know 12 months out and my muscle in my leg my quad muscle had atrophied so much that you know it was like i can’t just go back in and have another surgery right now because the atrophy is so bad right i need to rebuild the muscle and uh you know then i started looking into alternative strategies of like what i could do other than doing like you know human tissue um acl um you know um strategies which led me to you know calling matt hoffman and asking him what he would do and and then he started telling me about these synthetic ligaments that he was that he had been using that can get you back into the game like in a couple months and that you know you don’t have to spend you know nine to 12 months in rehab so i started you know looking at alternatives you know procedures like that and next you know i’m in you know europe getting these uh synthetic ligaments put in my knee and and then one thing led to another and you know and then i fell shortly after that and blew out my shoulder and i had to have surgery on my shoulder and then next you know you know i mean it’s just like i don’t know it’s like it was like i want to say like 30 years old is when when it started all happening it’s like a domino effect like boom this happened i’m better boom another thing happened yeah and i don’t and from that point on it’s been like you know it’s definitely been a rough path but there’s you know there is a flip side to it you know it’s taught me a lot about you know health and wellness and i’ve got a default education in medical stuff you know and like orthopedics and you know it’s not that i really wanted to go through it this way to get educated in that sense but um but you know i’m trying to take the good in it and you know i’m trying to you know learn something from it and apply it you know to other things and definitely you know have had a lot of people come to me over the years with like hey man i don’t know what to do i threw out my knee or you know and i have a lot of good information to share with people at this point yeah you know i’m happy that i’m in a position to do that and there’s a lot of things that i’ve you know had to learn acquire the knowledge through you know the hard way through a pretty treacherous path that i feel i’m you know i have i’m grateful that i can actually share that knowledge with other people and say don’t do this and don’t do that and if you you know if you do this you might have this you know the repercussion or if you don’t ask these questions you know when you go see your doctor he might do this and yeah so there’s a lot of people i’ve helped in that way and it’s you know i feel you know it’s a good position i feel like you know i like to give back in that way so knowledge is wealth is that what i’m saying health is wealth right yeah health as well yes knowledge is wealth also yeah absolutely but sharing the knowledge is key you know i mean it’s like well even it comes down to even the smallest part is like what to ask your doctor a lot of people get in there and they just kind of let the doctor go and then they don’t ask the right questions and all of a sudden they’re having surgery when they may not even need surgery or they can go this route or that route and all it is is just talking to the doctor you know and figuring it out absolutely and like you say like you go to your doctor you know if you’re not experienced in in in the situation that you’re dealing with there’s there’s a lot of key questions that you could ask and and and you know that could have been the defining moment in getting a totally different result 100 you know and there’s you know if it’s just like an acl surgery like where are you getting the tissue from you know like what is your surgery technique right it’s almost like an interview like you’re interviewing the doctor you know and a lot of you know people just don’t have they don’t have the experience or the understanding until they actually go through it right you know and a lot of people just trust in their doctor and that’s what it is you know if they have a good result they’ll know they never even question it and never even to need to know these things but you know some you know there’s a lot of people that don’t get the results they’re looking for and then they start asking questions later and you know that’s when you’re like well if you would have known this you could have maybe asked these right questions you would be having a different you know be in a different situation but anyways that’s you know the the upside to what i’ve gone through is that i do have good information to share with people and i’m happy to do it right right yeah man uh it’s yeah i even say like just don’t lie to your doctor either you know go in there tell the truth tell what happens because there’s no point i mean you lie to him you know what what’s the doctor going to do you go in there you say you don’t smoke and they take they take blood and they’re like bro you smoke yeah yeah yeah like why not just like eat i don’t know you try to put on some weird like front when you go to the doctor it’s insane yeah totally because you want to seem as healthy as possible yeah like everything’s good but um man wait and we’ll i’m sure we’ll get into more of the injury stuff because you have been through a lot and the helicopter and i mean the career we could spend 10 hours here you know which i hope we do which i hope we do yes i’m down to do it okay the injury stuff is boring you know i mean it’s like i you know unfortunately it is a major piece of my career puzzle but you know but yeah it’s it’s not like it’s it’s a dark it’s the dark side of things and it’s just so exciting you know we hear this from the outside of like yo he went to the great wall he did this he busted his head he broke his ankle and then he went back the next day and did it and you’re like what the hell is this guy’s a super human it sounds like it’s like made up like it’s like a like superhero story but it’s real like a fairy tale or like a fable or something you’re like wow eliminating what-ifs is is is you know how do i put it you know having a situation like the great wall of china i mean you can look back and be like what if for the rest of your life yeah but if you didn’t try you can’t eliminate the what-ifs you know so it’s like that that has been something i’ve learned throughout my career many times is like you know at least close the idea of like well if i would have only tried one more time or if i only would have done this differently then the result would have been that right right lisa would have tried and you know went off the side of that ramp or whatever it would have we would have you know at least i would have to look back and go okay god only would have tried it one more time what would happen god well you did it yes yeah you did it bro you can talk about that an hour later well let’s i i don’t know dude oh no back and forth i’m sure the timeline will like end up back there you know because it is fascinating you know to like us skaters who you know we go through an ankle injury or we go through this but you know i’ve never heard of anybody breaking their foot and still going you know it’s crazy you know put yourself in that predicament though and being in my shoes like okay like you spent several years trying to put this together yeah you’ve got all this money vested in it you know i’ve basically gone around everybody and got them to spend money on this thing and you know and and i have one opportunity to do this and it’s like never going to get this chance again yeah true and you know i’m sitting there like well what what am i going to do just go home and not try like right how would i ever be able to live that down like totally it’s you know the shame of that would be the the consequence of of trying and having something else go wrong i get you i get you for sure for sure at least i can live with the fact like okay i tried and yeah you know i got hurt more or you know something else went wrong and or you know whatever the result ended up that if it wasn’t success at least i would have known that exactly i couldn’t have tried any harder but i mean not only the weight on your shoulders of everybody being involved in this but you know the fact that they you know made a national holiday so people could watch and they they wouldn’t even let you skate the ramp to test it out on the on the first day and that that’s when you got hurt right because you said i got it i got to do this yeah they didn’t want me to even step foot on the ramp because they were afraid that the media would you know get a clip and leak it so i had to wait you know they had like government of government officials on the scene you know waiting basically until the sun went down to make sure that nothing happened that one try that i slid in was like the government officials left it like 10 minutes before the sun was you know down too far or enough where i couldn’t see yeah and so i ran up there and you know i was cold i wasn’t warmed up and like i was like i just got to know if everything’s the calculations are correct and and found out real quickly that they were they were not right because they ended up uh adding an extra lip on to it or something right i looked at it and i could sense that something was off oh straight from the get-go from the get-go so i built an extension on it the first go and i should have built it even bigger so it wasn’t enough and uh but i could visually tell that the dimensions were screwed up okay wow just the the way that it the trajectory was going and then the length of the game just yeah just how proportion it was from stepping back from the other side of the valley there i was looking at it and just going it just looks like there’s not enough rolling right and then they also built the deck like the landing ramp in the deck like with a square angle like an edge you know that’s interesting yeah instead of like a hump yeah which you know i could have got a little bit of forgiveness coming up short you know i knew right away that that was a problem because i was like if i come up short i’m done like there’s no getting out of that it’s um and i literally came up like a foot short you know like that close and i’m like do i dive over this thing you know should i go head first because i might be able to like superman yeah like and you only have like a millisecond to make these decisions in that situation and you’re like if i don’t make it over and i’m going head first so i’m going to really get broke off yeah and that i mean so instinct instinctively i you know decided to go feet first but man just like one foot further and i would have cleared the edge of that but that square edge changed everything you know and like that was another one of the things that was on my drawings and everything it was supposed to be around a rounded lip because i would have been able to get away with it if it was rounded i would have been able to squeak in yeah so what exactly happened your foot hit the the edge of it or you know it’s an angle like that i just came up like a foot uh short okay landed on my right ankle and then tumble tumbled into oh man now you’re going like close to like probably 45 48 miles an hour on that oh my god and you’re just like the rag dog yeah so but wouldn’t it break exactly yeah what would you break um i broke the end of my i had like an evulsion fracture on the inside of my ankle on my tibia okay and then the end of my fibula back here on the edge so it broke in two places yeah ripped the the tendon off the bone um wow so that was it was pretty trash like the you know i would i would have never tried to do anything on on that injury like that i mean it took a special like situation like that to to get me like in a minus in the mindset where i’m like no matter what i gotta i gotta do this like really anything else i can do but do it yeah so i mean i i assume the minute that that happened you’re laying there being like holy like i’m sure there was so many emotions going through your body like wow that this is this is a disaster like the worst thing basically yeah worst possible scenario i was very familiar with the distance of that gap like you know um and i actually i made the gap a little bigger for that jump because i wanted to be like a record-sized jump okay but it wasn’t anything that i was like oh i you know i would have been that foreign to you right you know the the issue with the design is what really screwed it up like there was an issue with you know the um the government had like appointed their con their workers like they had to have like their crew working with my crew gotcha just you know for cultural reasons right there was a language barrier though because our guys didn’t speak chinese and those guys didn’t speak english and they’re working in metric and we’re working in standards a lot of so there were variables tons of variables and a lot of things got lost in translation wow and uh you know so but the the the jump that was you know it was something that i was pretty comfortable with sure um but you know in that circumstance just yeah i mean it didn’t didn’t work out the way it was supposed to but normally i would have been able to you know do that yeah i went into it with a pretty like i got this mentality you know and i was planning on like sessioning the thing like i wanted to you know film a couple of cool tricks so yeah that was my my vision when i was going over there it wasn’t like i’m gonna get hurt and it’s gonna be a survival mode situation i was like man i’m gonna be able to do like you know if i can session this thing for an hour i can probably get like 10 cool tricks over and have like a little video segment you know that i’d filmed over that thing and that was what i was really hoping for yeah yeah so once the ankle injury happened i was just like man i just got to get this done and turned into a full survival situation how did you even think you could recover or not recover but how did you think you could even do that yeah where you said you have to wrap that thing yeah like quarter zone shot like when did you make the decision yeah of like okay i can if i do whatever i need to do for the ankle i could i could pull this was it that day or the next day or i mean immediately you know my mentality was like let’s go to the hospital and see what’s going on and like let’s figure out what we can do to like get through this you know so i had a friend with me that was an american doctor and we went to the to the hospital and there was like a you know an american um like uh trained doctor there so she knew how to speak english and uh basically gave us you know access to all of the supplies in in the in um in the surgery or in the emergency room there okay and so we went and got all kinds of things you know just like lidocaine and um you know some basically all the wraps and things i would need i had a lot of stuff with me already i came you know with you know with the idea what happens if i get hurt so i had some stuff but for the most part what i what i really relied on was the lidocaine the numbness yeah we numbed it up which was you know you can’t feel your foot no that’s that that wait a minute back foot or front foot back foot so that became a problem because you know like definitely needed the lidocaine to be able to endure the pain right but it did leach into my the bottom of my foot so you know at first i was like okay this is going to work and then the more the time went on i started feeling my foot getting numb oh god and then i started having problems with knowing where my foot was on the tail of the board oh my god i was like sitting up there like fire to drop in like having to like make sure it’s in the right spot oh my gosh yeah i’m just thinking like i get my tooth done and i can’t drink water properly like imagine trying to skate like dead foot like being on this huge ramp yeah yeah it was it was an interesting feeling to have like a numb it felt like i had like a club like you know i don’t know if you surf in the wintertime you might know this feeling but yeah when your feet get numb out there it’s like your feet almost feel like they’re like foreign objects attached to you so that was you know a bit of a challenge but i had to wrap you know i i numbed it with lidocaine and then i wrapped it and did all the bracing and all that stuff and once i you know shot it like once i jumped over it the first time and i had to walk up those stairs to drop in it was like you know ten flights of ten stories to get up to that topic so doing that and then just like once my adrenaline started pumping and like my blood started flowing it’s like right you know i could kind of like you know see that i could get through this you know like i started to go okay i got this like yeah it was just that first drop in though it was like who knows what’s going to happen right now and well that’s the thing i was going to ask is how do you even get warmed up for something like that like how do you climb ten or nine stairs it warms up at 10 places i know but i mean just that board feeling and like oh man it’s numb i mean listen like you said you you it’s something that you’re used to doing you know but still there’s that now that now that this numb factor you know yeah the num factor was definitely a twist but you know and the way that we built that roll in it was on top of like a little wall that teed off the main part of the wall and there was you know 50-foot drops on each side of that thing you know we built like a little like like you know like barrier wall after the first like the first day i didn’t have that so you know the idea of you know taking a hard rider left and flying off that wall was in my mind in the beginning you know but the next day i mean regardless if that would have you know happened or not right you know it was you know i had the wall there but it was still on my mind you know like what happens if i drop in and it gives out like oh my god you know i mean am i going to shoot off this jump and fly to the side to the right or to the left or am i going to come up short and land in the back of the ramp like so all those things are going through my mind and once i jumped over it and i was like oh i cleared it and i landed in you know in the sweet spot where i could land i was like okay i got this but damn definitely yeah that was that was probably the most you know challenging scenario i’ve ever had in any any predicament did anyone else know other than like obviously your doctors and stuff did the other officials know that you broke your ankle um no no no not really no i didn’t really you know other than just my close friends and family that were there like yeah nobody really know what was going on they just knew i took a hard fall and you know okay you didn’t throw on an instagram post there was an instagram at that time it was like right before the social media area throw out a tweet you know what what happened what year is that i’m sorry 2006 or five or so okay so i don’t know yeah forget let me you can look it up but i think it’s 2006. i mean obviously like that was fine all right it probably felt awesome but what when you landed what happened like what was going through your body like oh you were probably relieved like well you know and then i had to stare at this quarter pipe going closer oh i wasn’t that relieved if you watched the videos of me dealing with that because like you know the other thing that happened is they built the the quarter pipe way too close you know the landing ramp of that thing was twice as long as it normally would be and then the flat bottom ended up twice as short as it’s supposed to be so you didn’t have that time so i had twice as much landing ramp to catch more to build up more speed and then i came into the bottom and there was hardly any flat bottom so like if you watch the video you can see me speed wobbling all the way through the apex of the on the on the ones you know on the bottom of the roller all the way into the air you can see like a slight wobble and i’m literally like just hanging on for dear life if i wobble out you know like the jake brown situation like that was yeah it’s real you know jake hadn’t had that happen yet but i was visualizing that in my mind the whole time like if i wobble out and i get ejected it’s going to be so that was you know that was one of the the biggest fears i had once i knew i could get over that then i’m like okay now i got to deal with the quarter pipe how many times how many times did you do it how many times did you jump it uh five times five times what was the point of driving jumping to five to different tricks or whatever it was dealing with the quarter pipe like i was just like i did you know i jumped it the first time and i purposely jumped off just to make sure okay make sure that the distance was there and then i made it four times in a row but i i was struggling with the quarter pipe because of that fact factor i was just telling you about with the um speed wobbles and there was also like a um like a a tailwind that was blowing super hard so like pushing you pushing me so i was getting this extra speed and then i was also drifting over the deck of the ramp and that quarter pipe was like you know the normal mega ramp quarter pipe is 27 feet tall okay that one was 32 feet tall so i you know i made everything a little bit bigger yeah i was hoping that it would all worked out the calculation was a bit on point because i wanted to do a bigger air than i ever did or done before and that was like you know i had the speed because of the landing ramp was so big i was like okay this is like maybe the opportunity to like raise the bar on the high air stuff okay so you were saying that you know you wanted to you know it was a quarter pipe that was giving you problems do you consider if you don’t if you don’t make it if you don’t do the quarter pipe it wasn’t like a make it wasn’t like a line or is it just cool you did the mega awesome whatever happens next or is it that line that that makes you feel like you you did it well it just depends what you’re trying to achieve yeah i was there to jump the wall right so like the quarter pipe is almost like a it’s like the hay bales or something that’s okay what do you do with all that speed how do you scrub that speed yeah you know without a quarter pipe what are you going to do make a runway out for like a half a mile parachute you know the quarter pipe you know it’s jumping the wall was it was was the goal with that okay although in my mind you know i really wanted to make sure that i made it just to have the line feel from my personal satisfaction sure but it wasn’t important at the point where i was at like with how you know hurt i was and then just knowing how like how fine of a line it was before i wobbled out and got ejected off that quarter pipe like i felt like i i walked away at the right time you know right and walking up those stairs and you know it was also like one of the hottest days like in in china that they had all year and it was super human so oh man i was completely exhausted by the fourth or fifth try the fifth try i went on like i was literally so you know lightheaded and dizzy and i was just like man am i gonna you know if i am i getting greedy should i just walk away and just call it you know yeah you gotta know when to fold them in that situation i think i did the right thing right yeah right and you did it five times yeah i jumped it five times you didn’t get the video apart but you made history no i mean i did i mean you know i’m i’m always like hard on myself we’re our own worst critics i’m never satisfied so you know yeah i really wanted to make you know an error on that quarter pipe and yeah i mean dude look at this right i know dude yeah for anybody that’s looking he’s a little speck over there in the middle of the uh photo yeah this is yeah it was wild imagine bro yeah who’s i i mean was it your idea to do this it was my idea and just it’s crazy how quickly it it we were able to make it happen just based on like my manager um was out at you know at coachella and we just been bouncing these ideas around and this was one of them i was just in china like you know for uh for some you know for some product that we’re developing that i do with skateboarding but um i was down there and checking out some factory and on the way back there was just like on the on the magazine in the seat back pocket on the plane there was a photo of the great wall and i was just like bing yeah like you know the mega ramp stuff was starting to evolve pretty quickly so i was like man it would be so cool to like find a location to build this thing to kind of put it in perspective because being out in the desert it’s really hard to get scale you know like it’s you know it’s not really doing it justice so that you know that jumped out at me and then um my my manager was out at coachella just partying you know and he bumped into somebody at one of the parties that you know at coachella and and the guy was like you know my dad’s really connected down there and you know he could probably make that happen and you know and next thing i know i’m down there meeting with the government and and these this is all unfolding it’s like crazy a story of how it all came together because it’s like some guy coachella at a party yeah you know you think he’s just drunk or whatever he’s like this guy’s full of over here dude but he guy was connected enough he made it happen man it was like craziest thing it was it was meant to happen yeah yeah incredible man well congrats on that like you said you you made history bro that’s a gnarly dude yeah i’ve never been to the great wall i’d love to go one day and check it out but uh you know anyway probably maybe we’ll have to do a 2.0 great wall listen i i need to be there when we go skate china if you’re skating the streets people look at you like they’re like what the hell are you doing right i couldn’t imagine but they look like what’s he doing what’s what’s this ramp i mean not to mention that they had a day of uh work free so people could watch this on tv yeah i mean we’re talking billions of people yeah it’s a lot of people oh my god yeah it’s a trip man pay-per-view you could have made a fortune i mean yeah i think it was a little you know considering how things have evolved with social media and and just skateboarding and you know everything since then until now like the evolution of our industry and just you know how many people care and you know now it’s in the olympics and i just think that we were maybe it was a little bit premature of being able to get right yeah you know the you know it didn’t have the ability to reach so many although it did reach the whole you know chinese you know population sure on the day off that they had but for the most part yeah it was you know looking back at it now i was like man it was still pretty underground then they charged everybody a dollar bro but nowadays i think you know if you said yeah i’m gonna go jump to great walleye china people would make a much bigger deal out of it yes that’s true that’s true especially with social media and everything man yeah i had a lot of people like not believing that it was going to even happen damn proved them wrong that’s damn sure well let’s let’s do this let’s change directions and take it back to you know when you started skating and everything like i i’m always interested in like how somebody discovers skating or like did you see somebody on the road was it a family member like a christmas complete you got like how how did you how did this come into your life well when i was a kid my you know um my stepdad he was a surfer and he always had skateboards around and uh you know i i was introduced to surfing at a really young age as well but the skateboards were just sitting there always and you know i started using it as like my vehicle to get around and i would you know as like two years old i would you know push on one knee type thing and you know from that point on i like had a connection with the skateboard obviously you know i evolved to standing up on the skateboard you know at some point but like you know i remember the first time i touched it i was like i felt like you know this was my vehicle of choice like crazy so i was infatuated with it as a as a kid yeah you know to the point where i you know i think i was like five or six and i got my like first real skateboard you know that was like mine that and at that point i was you know obviously standing up and pushing around on a skateboard um but we lived in cardiff and del mar skate park was you know a few miles away down the freeway and uh my my dad and my brother and i were driving down the freeway and you could see from the free you know from the freeway you could see the actual pools and you could see the skate park oh wow and we got a glimpse of it and uh you know we were like whoa what’s that and my dad was like well let’s go check it out you know so he took my brother and i there to to see what was going on and you know that day we just my brother and i became infatuated with skateboarding just watching you know watching these guys skate pools blasting arrows out of pools and just could not believe like it just seemed magical like it was possible and uh so that same day our dad got us memberships and bought us completely you know started okay and from that point on that was like the catalyst you know that was it like wow so do you remember your first the first setup you had um a sims board ripper nine okay going trucks um yeah that was damn snake wheels but okay that wasn’t like the first board i had got you that was the board that i got that day at the skate park that was like you know um i guess the first board that i had that was like ready to go escape true did you pick out the little parts and stuff or was it kind of uh put together for you this one was well it was put together but i think i got to pick like the wheels like there was a couple things that i exchanged out on it i got like two-tone wheels and stuff okay but like it wasn’t for the most part like you know it wasn’t like the full custom setup that i got you know down the pathways but um it was great starter kit yeah yeah yeah so del mar was it then i i assume you were there all the time as much as i could be i mean we didn’t live you know you know i did obviously you know as a kid and shortly after we got introduced to the del mar skate park my parents split up and then i got moved away and um ended up in vista which was a lot further out and uh so you know we didn’t have access to del mar every day but you know we when we could get a ride or whatever we would go on the weekends and stuff but that’s when we started building ramps i was going to say where were you skating in vista just building your own ramps we started building ramps and this is also right around the time that street skating started to emerge gotcha so like it kind of forced you know you know our skate scene and vista you know the the click of guys that we you know that came together that we started skating with you know we all skated del mar yeah and then we were forced to start building ramps and then street skating started to emerge and then we all started street skating just because it was you know we didn’t there was no difference like we didn’t segregate like different genres of skateboarding back then right like we skated you know yep yep and street skating’s happening and all the guys that skated street skated too so there wasn’t like a line between the genres of skateboarding that’s all i knew it’s like you know okay cab skate street yeah oscar skate street kendall skate street yeah like you know all these guys that i see ripping the vert ramp are all street skaters yeah gone skates vert you know you know it’s like there was hensley skated for before street yeah yeah yeah you know so it’s like i was i think blessed to grow up in in that era because of that reason you know like it by default i was just you know learning how to skate everything at the same time yeah and it was because del mar was you know del mar was also having like insurance issues on the regular so they were shutting it down you know it’d be closed down for a while then they would open it back up and not only did we live you know a you know a 20 30 minute drive away right but sometimes it just wasn’t open you know so the um we just got you know in the rhythm of building our own things to skate sure and then street skating when we didn’t have a ramp to skate were you watching videos back then or just looking at magazines or we were watching the pal videos you know there was there wasn’t have any videos around yeah videos of course a lot of content contest videos and you know vision had a couple of videos as well yeah but for the most part it was the pal video the pal videos yeah and which went on to get sponsored by powell yeah which is like you know as a kid being a connoisseur of the bones brigade and like skating del mar skatepark and you know being a little kid and watching tony pull up and skate and like being so in awe of the of the whole bones right movement you know to be end up you know on the bones brigade at one point was like it’s it it was all so surreal and it happened so quickly from you know from feeling like i was just this little kid that was learning how to skate the next thing i know you know i’m being you know i’m becoming a part of something that was so unachievable or untouchable to me as a kid it just you know it was a lot happened how how quickly was that happening like what what was the catalyst to get you on powell were you filming stuff or were just the people you were around well i was scared was that your first sponsor by the way was powell your first or you had to it’s no it wasn’t it was no i i started getting boards from team la soy and that started from being down in san diego and mission beach at these you know these uh events they call big wednesday okay so yeah what you guys saw was due recently with western those guys is just us just re you know rekindling i love it i love it so big wednesdays were popping off in the middle you know like 1985 86 or 87 like that little time period you know launch ramps were getting pulled out like there was a shop down there called hammels and they would have these skate demos every wednesday and then those things started blowing up so big that you know they started you know moving around from in front of animals down the way because there was these big parking lots in mission beach and they had like double-sided curbs over there and then you know cars started showing up with launch ramps over cars and there was some spots where you could do like launch ramp to wall ride so just those those big wednesdays started getting out of hand like crazy and just by chance my stepdad was living you know he lived in mission bay on a boat for a while so i would go down there to hang out with him all the time and i would find myself in mission beach just skating around and you know when these big wednesdays started to pop off i was at the right place at the right time and i had been street skating quite a bit because i was you know living in vista skating with hensley and you know brendan chefell my brother mario rubicon all these guys yeah these guys are all the guys that you know we went to you know they’re a couple years older than me they’re my brother’s age my brother’s like three and a half years old but that three and a half years i mean they seem so much older right so much older yeah and i was always a little kid trying to fit in and uh and it wasn’t so easy because i got picked on and beat up on and you know i was always having to prove myself to get validation and it just never ended so you know a lot of my drive that i had in skateboarding was built on that game from that came from that yeah and my only you know sort of retaliation to these guys for tormenting me you know and not allowing me to hang out was the only thing i could do is be better than them check that out guys i learned right right so you gotta like you know not let me come hang out and skate with you guys well then i’m gonna go like figure out how i can like figure get good at something you guys can’t do yet you know and then show up and and you know how can you like kick me out of the scene right now yeah i’m better than you better you better stay with me now i think you know having been in that situation i started to progress with my street skating skills pretty quick you know von trampera and the ho ho plants and yeah i had a big bag of ho ho tricks and the lawn tramps were my thing for a while so showing up at big wednesday showed up there one day and like you know he was building a new team for his uh for for his soy street you know team hassoy was had to deal with santa cruz for a minute and uh he was building a new team and he had dennis martinez um you know legend skateboarder from the 70s uh kind of heading up the team manager position and dennis lived in san diego so he’s he’d been pulling together different guys to be on christian’s team so i got you know i got sponsored to ride for christian for street skating that day it wasn’t like for bird skating although that was something that i did regularly i wasn’t you know it was not why i got sponsored by christian got you from that point on i started getting boards from them and then you know i got asked to cruise to a couple demos one was in las vegas and arizona i went to arizona with these guys and i’m like 13 years old and you know my mom you know it’s pretty trusting and pretty cool to drop me off with a bunch of guys at that age to go to another state you know and be you know jumping in a van right she doesn’t even know and uh so you know i went on a couple of trips to those guys like that and uh that was like the first you know my first introduction to like being accepted into a scene or you know validated by any other pros or um and let alone christina yeah it was it was pretty surreal you know i mean you know i’m and they’re not much you know they’re older than me but you know looking back now these guys were probably i was maybe like 12 13 these guys are in their like early 20s gotcha i remember on one of those trips we you know we were on our way out to like arizona and we pull into like a parking lot at a park and like sitting in the van for hours because these guys are trying to get weed before we went okay yeah and i didn’t obviously smoke weed at that age at all but um you know but i definitely grew up around it so i knew what it was gotcha so i mean i’m sitting there for like you know five it seemed like 10 hours sure and i’m just like this like i just want to get to the skate spot like you know that’s all i cared about was skating right when’s the next session you know these guys are like well we need to get our wheat yeah don’t worry about it relax little okay we got it yeah so get there and i remember this that trip so vividly because license the lbc boys album just dropped and uh christian you know had that on in the van on repeat for like three days straight and uh you know by the time i got back from that trip i knew every word every song and uh yeah but that was it that was an amazing time and shortly after that um you know the guy that was running team soy dennis was struggling with some drug problems and he just wasn’t you know he was getting product to give to us and he was trading it for other things and like i wasn’t getting any board support that i needed so vision you know i had an opportunity to escape revision uh there was a demo in this skate demo like a half pipe demo with this lady named gail webb okay yeah webb’s like legendary like you know she’s like probably in her 60s now but she’s a skate like you know back in the day in the 70s she knows all the you know og you know legend pros she used to be on like team pepsi with like tony alba and like that wow so she comes from that era but she she you know she built a ramp and she did all these demos and she tries to you know just support like young kids trying to get into skateboarding and like she’s she’s amazing this woman so there was this demo at the local skate shop in vista and i showed up there you know and and uh asked if i could escape the ram and she’s like no you know i liability reasons whatever and i’m like you know all right and then eventually she might jump on the ramp and then later that day um you know like tony showed up in a limo with kevin starve and lester and um adrian the main and um rosscop and you know like all the time crows just showed up at this demo and this was like my golden moment you’re like here we go boys like this was you know and gail webb worked with visions she’s like they sponsored her demos and stuff so okay you know i was definitely getting on the radar with some of these people but like this demo was like the catalyst like where i got to really prove myself with the top pros being on the ramp at the same time wow because i’d go to del mar and there’d be heated sessions and these guys would just snake me all the time or whatever but this was like the one day that i got an opportunity to like just give it give it everything i had and so um you know gail after that demo was like hey i think i can hook you up with vision you know and vision was blowing and was huge at that time they made shoes and clothes and i was just like okay well i love hassoi he’s my all-time favorite you know what i mean um but i didn’t opportunity not i had you know i had no money as a kid you know like i was you know my boards were just destroyed from board to board my shoes we had holes in them and duct tape all over them and so i was just like i need product i don’t know what else to do so that led me to jumping on vision gotcha and uh and i started doing more of those demos for gail webb and um and then i started bringing matt hensley with me and hensley you know shortly after got sponsored by vision and we started um you know skating just amateur contests you know skating for vision and the nsa contest and stuff yeah and uh you know that was going well for a while and then there was a contest in las vegas and i flew out there um and i was supposed to get a ride back with the vision team and they had like a vision van and it was like kelly rose grands and beedle his brother and uh who else was i think there was ron allen was in that thing nice but whatever it was i went out there and the vision i was like 13 years old at this time the vision team manager left me in las vegas and i had like no money no nothing and uh that left me like on purpose like just yeah i don’t know what happened yeah the van’s gone i don’t think it was on purpose okay so i just i mean it wasn’t intentional like we’re just gonna leave this kid these guys are out part like i don’t know what the deal was i just think they just forgot right literally fried from the night so i’m like sitting i know that feeling i remember because at the hotel i remember these guys were out like going out and they were getting wasted and i was just waiting for the contest because that’s all i want to do with skate that’s all i cared about so yeah i got left at this contest and then it was like literally getting dark and then you know i’d seen a guy throughout the day that had a po like long ponytail was hanging out with brian lottie and he was kind of just you know i could see he was like coaching lottie a bit and okay he had a good vibe he came up to me and he’s like man you look like you’re in a in a tough position like where’d you guys go and i’m like i don’t know i don’t know what you know they took off i don’t know what i’m going to do and it ended up being mike ternansky oh wow so he’s like man i’ll get you home like you know i’m not going to leave you hanging here like that’s crazy those guys left you and so that was you know there was that was the moment where i like really evaluated what was going on with vision okay that doesn’t mean that i jumped right on h street at that moment okay so there’s a twist in this story okay okay mike told me about the new company they were starting and he’s like hey we’ve stoked have you involved blah blah and wow you know he’s like but you know don’t worry about it you know this is i’ll fly you home it’s not like a contingency thing like we’ll make sure that you get home safely and we can talk about that later okay was that your first time meeting mike yeah that’s amazing yeah it was yeah yeah and he was so giving in a sense of like yeah i got you bro you’re gonna get home yeah yeah yeah it was amazing so i mean he saved my you know i don’t know what would have happened at that point right 13 year old kid no cell phones i was broke like i didn’t have a dime in my pocket so he got me home and then right around that time i had been you know skating tony’s ramp tony’s ramp just got finished being built and uh i was skating mcgill’s had just got built so i was sessioning those ramps and um bucky had flown out and was staying at tony’s so i started skating with bucky at tony’s while he was hanging out there and then conversations one thing led to an another of like the idea like maybe jumping on powell you know so i have in my mind i’m like man h street you know and i was good friends with john schulte’s as well and john skated for h street you know and he was a good friend of mike and tony mag and so i’ve got and then hensley’s hanging out at skate camp at visalia skate camp for santa clara skate cam and mike is like one of the directors of the skate camp hensley i were both on vision he’s getting you know he’s solicited to skate for eight shoot at the skate cam we’re not together gotcha and i’m ending up at you know at tony’s house and i’m getting like you know some like hints of maybe ride for powell from bucky so like hensley and i were trying to do you know we were trying to stay on the same teams but he decided to leave vision to jump on hatred because he was connecting with mike so hard which was a great move for hensley yeah so i was a little bit like wait a second who are these guys and like you know i knew tony mag was involved but i was like it’s a startup company man like maybe powell’s the right move and you know growing up in you know in the era that i did and seeing the bones regained like the animal chin video future primitives like it was just the idea it was just it was surreal um to skate for uh dream come true i decided to to explore that you know so next thing i know i’m i’m on a train up to santa barbara with bucky and uh we decided uh or he you know i was going to go up there and meet todd haysing as a team manager and get some boards and just check out what was going on and ended up on a trip a film trip with uh steve sayas mike valeli shows up and then we’re in you know in a bw bust i think that’s what steve’s eyes had back then and out driving out into the mountains and uh behind santa barbara out towards bakersfield okay um there’s a ramp out there and uh i think the ramp is called venacopa the area but that’s uh it’s the segment that i had in public domain with bucky oh okay so one thing led to another really quick you know i was like on this train going up to to get some boards of power bucky next you know i’m in a van heading out to a film shoot with stacey peralta oh my god you know so like it all it was unraveling so quick and i was just in awe and so you know next you know i’m at this ramp and stacy’s coming out to film bucky and i’m there and i’m like you know riding pal boards and stacy’s coming and next you know i’m getting filmed and stacy’s you know filming me and you know i didn’t know if i was on pal yet or not right um but i was riding their boards and i was getting filmed for the video i guess yeah it started to click that like i think i’m what’s happening i haven’t gotten a word yet but this is looking promising it hadn’t been officially solidified yet but i remember after the session that day with stacey i i’d like asked him like so what’s going on here with 13 at 13. that’s some balls right yeah dude i was so scared did you even mention it but i didn’t know i was like am i like you know i just didn’t know which direction it was headed i just it seemed like it was heading that direction right i just needed to ask him and he was like what do you are you of course man he had already thought like it was already solidified okay so i was just like trying to prove myself all day and that’s essentially the footage that the video part that i have in public domain is like you know the first time i met stacy filming um for uh filming that video part and essentially thinking the whole day like i gotta like i gotta win this guy over i gotta do everything i could possibly do to get on powell and here’s my shot and maybe it was a good thing that it wasn’t solidified till that evening you know because it it kept me you know literally yeah the fire you know yeah i mean maybe it would have been burning either way but yeah i was kind of glad though that it was like you know it was like the reward after the hard work of the day or whatever it just you know so that’s that’s why i ended up on powell okay and uh you know i’m on pal for you know like about a year year and a half and and there’s some things going on and you know hensley’s on h street eight street’s starting to take off and they’re working on a video and i’m hearing about all these trips and mats going on with mike and you know next thing i know my friend steve ortega is on h street and all the guys from my hometown are being taken care of by 8th street the guys i grew up skating with so i felt kind of left out even though i was part of the bones brigade you know the bones brigade had like a young team but they had a pecking order you know it’s like it didn’t really matter i guess how good you were it’s like there was certain you know like clicks you had seniority based on how long you had been on the team you know and i don’t feel like i was going to be able to like progress you know to the level i needed to right to get to where i needed to go with my skateboarding at that time like i felt like i was a little bit suppressed and there was other guys in front of me which is totally cool i get it um and i was you know to this day i was still up skating for powell like it’s one of my you know i’m i was flattered and honored and to this day i have nothing but good things to say about it because you know powell still is like one of those things it’s like i love palpable that doesn’t know it’s one of the dopest companies ever and still is right yeah um so but it just you know at that point i needed you know i needed some other components applied to where i was at and like traveling was one of them so there was a contest in houston texas a shut up and skate contest and i really wanted to go and i’ve been telling todd hastings the team manager hey i need to go to this amateur contest you know it’s like for a vert contest it was a very important contest for me to go to got you and you know i know at that age you know the other amateur you know especially amateurs like you know bucky was from the east coast maryland or whatever and he’s a little he’s a year and a half older than me but like at that age we know like i know where all the other ripping you know the other kids are around the planet that are my age that are skating well right and there’s another kid in texas named david nielsen you know that was doing 540s and all this stuff and you know and he he was just ripping and uh that was the contest like you know i needed to i felt like i needed to be at this contest to prove myself yeah if i didn’t show up there would have been a big deal you know right like you wanted to go to head to head with this guy not like you know i was friends with him so it wasn’t like that you know but just like you know i mean back then contest mattered yeah yeah so like people turned pro the contest you know you would have like rankings and contests were like how you turned pro back yeah it wasn’t like oh you film a video part you turned pro right that’s not how it worked right so like typically you know with the nsa uh you know the amateur series that they did they would have the regional events and then the guys that won the regional events would go to the semi regional events and then to the finals and the guys that won the finals would turn pro and it doesn’t you know it’s all based on that you know back then sure so i had like a little bit of a bad year with the nsa like i didn’t make it into the final i was like an alternate okay and and i knew that like that was going to sabotage my ability to keep going and and so this this houston contest was a big deal because it was like it didn’t take any qualifying to go to this contest and i didn’t just go i knew the right guys were going to be there that i needed to compete against so um you know i called hastings a couple times like yeah we’re gonna fly you out there and then the week of i call them like hey what’s up with the plane ticket like i need to get out there and you know he’s like well we’ve decided to boycott it we’re not gonna go and i was like boycott it what the does that mean i was too young to even understand the politics like that so it didn’t make sense to me and you know then i’m talking to hensley because obviously we’re skating and hanging out all the time and he’s like dude we’re flying out on wednesday to houston and i’m just like my buddies are getting on the flight i’m not going like this is devastating right so you know i tried everything i could to get hastings to buy me a ticket to the point where i you know i finally got desperate enough that i called mike ternansky and i’m like hey i need a favor he already bought me a plane ticket once with no ex you know yeah no contingency you know so he’s like i told him my scenario and he’s like okay i’ll help you get out there but you’re going to end up riding patriot board in the contest okay and i’m like you know at that level of desperation i’m thinking is he really going to make me do this like yeah and maybe i can find a way to pay him back before all that happens so you know i just like okay whatever just booked me the flight and then next you know i’m on a plane to texas with him and tony mag wow and i show up there and sure enough like they literally pick me up from the airport we get picked up from the airport and taken to the hotel that was right near the skate park and right away like
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