Dr. Roseann – Changing The Way We View and Treat Children’s Mental Health

Dr. Roseann – Changing The Way We View and Treat Children’s Mental Health

hello and welcome to another episode of the sage mindset podcast i’m your host kyle gillette the owner of lunch solutions and the creator of the sage leadership framework what is the sage framework that is the idea that all great leaders are sage leaders that is they are self-aware they have powerful accountability in their life in their business they have a growth mindset and they inspire and empower others around them today’s guest is definitely an inspire she has a powerful growth mindset and you will be inspired and encouraged by today’s episode today i have roseanne capano hodge she is known as dr roseanne she’s a mental health trailblazer and founder of the global institute of children’s mental health dr roseanne who is changing the way we view and treat children’s mental health forbes magazines called her a thought leader in children’s mental health her work has helped thousands reverse the most challenging conditions such as adhd anxiety mood autism learning disability lyme pans pandas using proven holistic therapy such as neurofeedback biofeedback and psychotherapy she’s the author of the first ever book on telepathy active hello therapy excuse me activities for child and adolescent therapists teletherapy toolkit and it’s gonna be okay book she works with kids and families with remote neural feedback and her get unstuck program and raising successful kids community which are resources for parents to improve the child’s symptoms and develop grit and resilience she’s often featured on dozens of media outlets including fox cbs nbc parents and new york times so i’m very excited to have dr roseanne with us today so welcome her to today’s episode of the sage mindset podcast all right everybody well welcome to another episode of the sage mindset podcast i’m excited to have dr roseanne here with us so welcome to today’s episode well thanks for having me i always love to talk about ways to lower stress and improve mental health what who doesn’t want that i mean come on people that don’t realize they need to you know what i mean but we all need to well my my stress and mental health was challenged last night significantly because we’re having a heat wave here in up in northern washington and it was 90 degrees in my house and it was nine o’clock at night and my five-year-old or four-year-old decided that she did not want to go to sleep and so that that was stressful heat stresses you already and heat that he can’t get away from because it’s in your house so it’s just it’s just gross but uh we we survived i don’t know how well i survived i probably could have parented a bit better but we made it so but speaking of parenting pretty darn stressful to have 90 degrees in your house i mean that’s not conducive to actually sleeping so your four-year-old just said hey you know you should have thrown her in the bath is what you should have done yeah we did we plopped her in there but it was more of a consequence rather than a uh reward because we were playing outside at nine o’clock and the sprinklers and all that but but anyway speaking of kids can you share a little bit about uh your business and what inspired you to start your business yeah so i am a pediatric mental health expert and i really am known for people for parents teaching parents how to find solutions for their kids mental health and i’ve worked with thousands of people all over the world i work with people in person and remotely and i use a lot of brain-based therapies like neurofeedback coaching psychotherapy supplements and every single thing i do is science-backed and people get better and i fell into this um because even as a very very young child i was guided to do this work and it really was a calling for me and as i got involved in working in mental health in the early 90s this is my 30th year in mental health i decided i just loved working with kids and families it just yeah i had such an impact like the little bit of effort right what felt like a little bit of effort engaging with kids um you know spending a small amount of time with them just had such an amplified effect i was in shock like i couldn’t believe it and i was like this is what i want to do for the rest of my life i love doing it and i am the daughter of an uh big entrepreneur second generation entrepreneur i’m the daughter of italian immigrants and i was already very much holistic oriented in in so as i got into mental health i really realized that people weren’t getting better and the traditional treatments that are promised to help people like psychiatric medications and talk therapy often don’t work um and so i just became known in in this space as the person you go to when you just can’t get your kid better um because i can always get people better it’s just the degree and you know how willing are people to actually do the work is is really the only thing that sort of stops you know the progress so you know that’s how i fell into this space and really got known as such an expert i do a lot of media um and i’m grateful because it allows me to teach people that there is so much of what we can do uh to improve our mental health regardless your age regardless regardless of what’s going on lies within you yeah 100 and i think as as i’m hearing you and reflecting on what i said at the beginning of this conversation i know that the main problem wasn’t my kid the main mental situation there was definitely me yeah you were you were more irritated than she was exactly exactly do you find that that’s the case a lot of times for the people that you’re working with yeah the kids are definitely struggling but it’s really the parent or the business owner or whatever that actually has the struggle ah a hundred percent a thousand percent a million percent so and and we’re all doing the best we can right you know and and i you know have this book called it’s gonna be okay and every parent who comes to me the first thing i say is it’s gonna be okay that’s why it’s the title of the book because we’re scared out of our wits that we’re worried but i think the problem you know that every parent you know we want our kids to be okay and we think being okay means that they’re fitting in to the traditional right and you know let’s talk about entrepreneurs i mean so many entrepreneurs have learning disabilities specifically dyslexia um add you know 40 of us businesses are owned by dyslexic the number one common characteristic of millionaires is dyslexia and so many people have adhd because it’s a divergent mind it’s like an excited mind and you can think about a lot of things in these very creative ways um and are incredibly creative because they have to rely on a different part of their brain to get to information and they process um in such a kinesthetic visual way and that really helps them in these other areas right and so you know we think our kids we gotta fit them in and you know my good friend jj virgin who is a a leader in the health and wellness space and really was the early founder and so i always call her the grand grand dom of digital wellness and you know i didn’t interview for with her for my summit the get unstuck parenting summit and you know i was so grateful because what she said was i was the problem you know she she had a child has a child with serious mental health challenges and he he almost died by getting hit by a car and he had a 0.02 chance to live and she had to reevaluate a lot of things and she said i i was the mom that you know got my kid special education and did all this other stuff and i’m not saying it’s not it’s that’s not a good path but she was like if i just learned to embrace and accept him for who he was instead of being so worried and trying to get him to fit into the mold we all would have been a lot happier because he’s she said he’s 200 percent better he’s not on psych meds he’s doing all these things because they really just had to recalibrate after he almost died um and so i i just think you know and parents also don’t trust themselves like parents come to me and they’re like how could neurofeedback be so effective because i should have heard about it and i’m like okay uh you’re a lawyer a doctor or car salesman or wherever you are you’re educated person you’re employed you have to trust yourself what you were doing wasn’t working there’s tens of thousands of research studies on this treatment okay and you’re still considering your eighth psychiatric medication and the other seven have no research to substantiate its efficacy for your kids problem what are you doing here like check in with yourself and stop ignoring your instincts um so i think that’s a real challenge you know they just don’t see the success where you know what’s the power of an entrepreneur they’re visualizers right they see success and somehow because the emotional part right what are kids right it’s just we’re only as happy as our happiest kid blocks them from applying those same principles to the success of their kids you know yeah and it’s very challenging um to raise children and when we get in our own way it really doesn’t help at all so when you when you think about your industry what what would you say is the main hindrance what what is the biggest challenge in your industry either for yourself for the people that you work with that prevents people from really getting to that next step with their with their process mental health the industry of mental health it truly is a dinosaur and they are not you know we we talk a lot about science and research and evidence-based processes but they don’t use tools to really help us check under the hood diagnostically that are readily available so that’s lab work right so lab work has a place in mental health because so many people with mental health issues have underlying physical problems that drive mental health issues so that is a major problem and then i do something called qeg brain maps which are like which literally give you a visual representation of how the brain is functioning is it regulating is it not um and we’re not using that so we’re not using diagnostics and we have things like um you can do saliva testing and tell you your exact patterning of neurotransmitters so instead of using these tools that even if we weren’t using medication we could actually pick medications that work instead of doing the russian roulette right um so we’re also in our field there’s so many problems kyle um um we believe that talk therapy is the cure you know for for everything um and it’s not always appropriate there’s very specific types of psychotherapy that could be beneficial here’s an example of that um ocd if you have ocd there’s a very specific type of evidence-based therapy called exposure response and prevention erp um that is what should be done for ocd not talk therapy talk therapy actually worsens it so we we don’t really incorporate the research we’re also not educating the the medical providers we’re not educating the clinicians enough um and you know and that’s just not getting dispensed to the parents like parents in the old days you know i used to say i was not even on social had a website that looked like a high schooler made it and people would find me and fly into me right and so i just think that we really need to empower parents i mean my whole platform is teaching parents about solutions for mental health they are shocked that there’s so much they can do and it’s they’re like they they get excited and then they get mad kyle because they’re mad that nobody told them and i’m like but i’m telling you and let’s be here and let’s take action yeah and it’s one thing as i’m listening to you it’s like you could easily get overwhelmed with the reality of what didn’t work and all the wasted time money and effort energy and pain and suffering everything came with it and then you get this new body of work that is actually that that helps the child it really works but then you can also experience that overwhelm at the same time so absolutely how do you how do you navigate that with parents when all they have this overwhelm and they finally realize that they need to shift gears but then they have this whole new arena of yeah of options and opportunities that appear to work wonderfully how do you help them navigate that yeah well i support parents in two different ways right so people contact me again from all over the world so some people want to work one-on-one with me right in my team in this very direct way like let me hold your hand and also let me provide a direct treatment right which is we do other brain based treatments besides neurofeedback biofeedback psychotherapy coaching um but i also have a community for parents called raising successful kids so it’s how i support them is giving them the evidence science-backed ways that which we change and then really teaching them about where to start how to start small and how to start consistently so when we get overwhelmed the antidote to overwhelm is to do one thing and actually do it not seven um i have you know i have eight pillars of mental health there there are a lot of ways to change mental health and and the reality is if you’ve had a long-term clinical issue you’re going to probably need to get in there and really do some deeper work and that’s okay but you don’t have to do everything all at once like a lot of times people choose to work with me because they’re like dr rowe i’m ready i’m gonna do all eight of these things and you’re gonna show me i’m like okay you know what i mean and sometimes i’m like you’re not ready for all eight let’s just do two and we’re here we’ll coach you every week we’ll do all these things with you but i find dipping your toe in right doing the beach walk-in instead of jumping in the pool that’s why people join my community so they can get you know the videos they can get access to me they can do things and that’s that’s how you know i do it some people just need my book and they just are like hold on let me do that but you got to start one one place and you really what i say to people is it’s got to be 30 days like you’ve got to spend at least 30 days that the other part of our mental health system is very broken on both ends from both physician side and the patient side is everyone thinks there’s a magic pill and it just happens fast and it’s just not what just not the way it is just like you said with your parenting right it’s an evolutionary process if you have more than one kid you know you start changing based on the data you get from your first kid right yep um so true right and each kid is so different i never meet people that tell me their kids are the same like same personality same way they handle things never right now and then you become like you’re saying you become a different parent along the way absolutely for sure and you and we need to we need to adapt to those people yeah kids i mean those those people we wouldn’t do the same thing i mean gosh think about your evolutionary process in your business and hopefully how much better you are in your customer journey right it’s the same thing with your parenting journey you know exactly and it said that that business is improv and parenting is improv as well you’re always having to improv and the more willing you are to do that the more successful you can be in both arenas of course so if you were to take the goals you’ve already achieved and then think about the future goals you know what is the what is the impact you want to have on your industry what’s the big picture impact that you want to make yeah i mean my mission is to change the way we view and treat children’s mental health that is my mission that is what i’ve been working on um i have used a lot of media i’ve been had over been on over 400 television shows and articles podcasts and so i’ve now hit a few billion people and that is a big impact i really wanted to amplify i want to get this information to parents who don’t feel they can help their kids because the reality is kids are struggling they were struggling before the pandemic um and we know through data that they’re struggling even more and so nobody i think one of the silver linings of the pandemic as people realize nobody is immune from stress or even significant mental health problems and we shouldn’t be embarrassed by it either yeah and a pandemic really amplified that i know in 2019 my kids weren’t in school this this past year school year they were in school and that totally changed the dynamics of our home significantly but the stress that it created for my middle aged or my middle age my middle kid she just she couldn’t do it at home she would cry every single day every single day she was crying and we would get stressed and then we didn’t handle it super great and so it didn’t help it just it was terrible and plus they were learning they’re learning spanish in school they’re not they’re not doing any sort of english so we’re trying to teach our kids how to do spanish at home and we’re we’re not native speakers and so everything just compounded and kids are they’re interesting how they hide their their stress obviously you know a lot more about that than i do but they hide their stress and it’s difficult to identify and then we miss those opportunities to support them and help them so uh it’s really i i think if i would open my eyes a little bit more and go okay how is this situation stressing my kid in a bad way because stress is good for a kid there’s ways to stress a child that’s good like exercise is a stress that’s a good thing but there’s other ways that it could be really dangerous and so i think i need to open my eyes more and more to that and the listeners that have kids they need to open their eyes more and more to that as well because it’s an opportunity every one of those is an opportunity to make a quick difference and you take like you’re saying you make that one little step that one little thing that you do right there makes a big shift and that’s that’s the concept of sage is is one little thing that makes a big shift over the long term absolutely and you know like stress i mean i love what you just said in so many ways because at first of all i think everybody who had who survived pandemic parenting it completely resonates with exactly what you said right and um and you know any all kids most kids didn’t thrive with virtual learning a few did but i mean i’ve worked with so many kids but stress shows up in adults and kids in ways you don’t expect but mostly where it shows up is on the physical side with with gastrointestinal headaches sleep problems this is where you see it you also see it with changes but most people with stress they look okay on the on the outside right they’re very functional most people’s clinical issues look okay on the outside and we wouldn’t know it either and so every moment is an opportunity when we’re helping whether it’s an employee i can talk about that during the pandemic or kid every opportunity is really truly you’re you’re there to teach people how to cope because it’s the coping skills that help us slay stress give us perspective stop and take care of ourselves we have to stop avoiding uncomfortable emotions we don’t want to bubble wrap our kids but we want to teach the kids we’re with even our younger staff i have a whole bunch of 20 20-somethings on staff and i find myself mentoring them a lot and i love that they’re open right they’re open kids and they want to hear it and i always say like i always say to my staff this is an opportunity this is a learning lesson you know this is where you grow from right um and it’s the same thing with kids because they had to learn how to cope and some kids really did a great job with that and it was a stinky time and there’s gonna be sticky times and you know i always say like i’m a stress slayer you want me to be the captain of ship in a storm because i just don’t view stress in the same way because i take care of myself i really have made myself as stress inoculated as possible and so during this time how we supported our kids how we supported our employees is going to make a difference going forward 100 percent right and i think the the hidden part that you’re talking about where on the outside people look great in some cases yeah on the inside they’re real stressed i mean what people a lot of people don’t know about me is the amount of physical pain that i’m experiencing every single day on the outside i look like i’m you know normal and and everything’s okay but on the inside i experienced constant chronic pain and you wouldn’t know it and that’s people all around the world are experiencing either chronic pain or some sort of stress or whatever it is and they have this absolutely and to me that’s not that’s not ideal you know it’s not ideal to just leave it hidden because it’s only going to build it’s going to manifest in different ways and so helping our our kids helping our employees to be willing to open up and share a bit about that i think is a huge absolutely and you know kyle um chronic stress and chronic pain are more prevalent than people that don’t experience that right i mean it’s this we’re living in this you know seventy percent of all doctor visits prior to the pandemic were stress related so we’re living these high stress lifestyles in america um and our kids i mean the rate of clinical issues before the pandemic i started the global institute of children’s mental health in january of 2020 because we already had unprecedented levels of clinical issues suicide rates doubled 50 you know went up 56 and 10 to 17 17 year olds in the decade a decade before you know and now it’s just through the roof so you know you never know what’s going on on the inside with somebody which is why i always say just go out of your way to be kind in a place right now where people feel very viperish and um unstable and quick to lash out at others you know if we just go out of our way to smile and be kind to people oh my gosh we’re better off for it and the reciprocal effects that that has on that person beyond is huge call me corny but i’m gonna tell you will be a lot better off because it’s a little scary out there right now i’ve never ever seen more conflict amongst people and i would just be cautioning people to have email or social discussions or just people in a place where they’re not okay and it’s beyond a bristle with people people it’s a volatile situation right now and so take care of yourself and always be polite yeah well you know i’m sure you’ve heard of the butterfly effect and yeah and back in my mind i know that the technical name for that uh theory that’s been actually proven now but you’re you know a smile is as a flapping of those wings it creates a little bit of a wind that ultimately can turn into a hurricane is what i’m referring to for listeners but that that’s huge and and it’s not always just a smile it can be all kinds of different things but it matters and it can go the other way too which is something that i think people forget the butterfly effect is is goes the other way as well so like dr roseanne said smile smile that’s one simple thing you can do don’t write a snarky comment on social right just ignore it don’t shut your mouth if you don’t have something to say don’t say it or that’s it like it’s just you know hate hate writing is is become the norm and don’t persist participate in it and and get people off your social um who are doing that i block people i clean up my facebook all the time and i also don’t allow any friend requests on my personal unless i know you now you know like i don’t care we have 123 friends in common i don’t know you yeah you know you know it just don’t let it in safer don’t yeah you know this is about boundary setting i think you know when you are you know a leader in your business field um or an entrepreneur you know you’re working your tail off i mean i work seven days a week it doesn’t matter if on vacation i work seven days a week do i have time every day where i’m offline absolutely but um we need to have boundaries and boundaries of of having people that um bring joy to your life and have healthy relationships helps you it helps your role model your kids it helps have to really magnetize the right employees too and it’s just a good thing yeah it is interesting because you create what it is that you want in your life and so if you’re going to reflect this attitude of stress and irritation and frustration yes and all that then it’s going to come to you but if you’re going to reflect on this kindness and energy that’s good then that’s going to come back to you but i want to do a quick shotgun question here for you so i want you to hearken back to when you’re 14 years old and let’s say you come to your 14 year old the person of you right now walks up to your 14 year old and gives them advice what would be the three pieces of the pieces of advice you would get um i would say oh there’s so many things i would say to my 14 year old self um i would say that it’s okay love yourself for um having a clear clear mind and opinion about things right um because i was literally like this when i was two years old like i just had a certainty right um trust your instincts and the higher power voices that would be another thing because i had a lot of clarity and sometimes when you have that much clarity um you start to think how could i know that with such certainty and as i’ve gotten older i have really just been like well this is what this is what i know like this is my divine download this is my spirit guides this is my inner sense whatever it is and i just do it and it has been a super power in my decision makers and i would also just say that my final thing is probably that don’t keep people in your life that are not go givers like yourself that has been a really truly hard lesson when you are a giver um you can really really get things taken from you if you don’t have boundaries do you any means so it has been a just a blessing in my 40s and 50s to finally have other go-givers in my life um and it’s just crazy awesome like i just like love it you know i have a group um thread with my eight business besties and you can ask anything and they’re like i’m gonna do it for you you know what i mean like and i just can’t even tell you what a heart fulfilling thing that is do you mean to have these other go-givers because i’m a giver like and i’m a giver and i’m gonna tell you i give with no expectation of a return but after 40 something years of that right now i’m 50 um i started to be like i want somebody to give to me too you know what i mean so um beyond my husband and my parents you know so i shifted that and really cut out about 80 of the people in my life how about that yeah well it’s it’s like putting it’s the idea of removing the dross purifying things and cleaning that out because we need to do that because like we said before it really impacts you and influences you in negative ways absolutely obviously bad people right they weren’t bad people they were all nice people but when you’re a leader right and i’m sure so many of the entrepreneurs that are listening can understand this you know you’re the person that picks up the tab you’re the person that’s like i’ll take care of that you know what you mean oh i’ll do it you know and and and even if you’re somebody like me who’s like i love it i love to give or whatever when i finally had givers in my life i was like oh that’s what it feels like to receive you know what i mean and i was like this is awesome so you know now with people who like were like i’m gonna do that and you’re gonna let me and i’m like okay you know what i mean and i can feel good about it and i don’t feel have to feel like i’m i’m taking because there’s so much back and forth that’s pretty awesome so yep and i think for the moms they’re listening they’re really feeling that because i know for my wife she you know tons and tons of giving full-time job plus three kids plus you know i’m running my business and so that impacts her so on and so forth so there’s a lot of moms out there and there’s a lot of dads out there that that need to do some self-care uh and and surrounding yourself with the right people to me that’s the a in sage which is that accountability piece putting the right people in your life they create really amazing accountability for you and you have this this pseudo board of advisors of eight people in your life that that are hugely helpful for you and and it’s not like you’re just receiving you’re also given in return and that’s amazingly powerful so i love that you call them my pseudo board of advisors because we really are like sisters and we’re like what do you think of this you know what i mean and uh i remember somebody asked me something yesterday and i wrote hell no don’t do it you know nice you know we haven’t seen people yeah 100 we have that safety so it’s great we’re a bunch of lifters and we also tell each other the truth which is needed too you know but you’re right it’s part of that self-care you know and it’s all achievable it’s all you’re right it’s who you magnetize in your life yep 100 so i want to allow people to get magnetized towards you to be a little corny there but how can people connect with you and learn more about about you so they can actually directly interact with you yeah so i’m dr roseanne everywhere so if you’re driving it’s d-r-r-o-s-e-a-n-n and it’s dot-com i’m on tik-tok youtube instagram facebook is dr roseanne hodge um and that’s where people can find me and you can get my book it’s gonna be okay you can either go to it’s gonna be okay.com and you get some free gifts when you get my book or you can get it on amazon and if you have i mean this is what i say to people all the time um if this resonates with you uh you know somebody that’s got a kid that’s struggling with add or ocd or depression anxiety learn whatever is going on i’m asking every listener to tell five friends because this book is a game changer and will change your trajectory of somebody you care about life and that’s what i do because i’m out here pushing against trying to get this information out to people and you can share this episode with five of your friends and they can get some great information too perfect well thank you so much for being on the sage mindset podcast i appreciate it and please listeners go check out that book go check out roseanne’s website and learn more about this and everything that she’s doing
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