Indian PM Modi & US President Biden on Taliban & World Politics

Indian PM Modi & US President Biden on Taliban & World Politics

premium [Music] global governance news tv today we’re going to discuss taliban but with reference to india and u.s especially yesterday we watched and just uh listened the speech of u.s president mr biden how this year’s totally touched each and every subject every points how does that uh all world and the analyst was dragging the america with so many stories why america pull out from the uh afghanistan should not be should be like that foreign like that so we’ll discuss on this initiation of the u.s president how u.s president spoke about the each and every subject on the issues on the troops how he said 6 000 american troops also still there in afghanistan taliban should not taken for granted anything whatever they are thinking there is no match that is speech and action whatever just prime minister in prime is also focused on that so the taliban issue related to afghanistan i raised the eye broke the so many countries same country came on front same knot so i just will discuss today with our all the experts on vandana jinganji from the u.s chicago syrian journalist and allah from spain for european affairs and from the indian perspective anita chaudhary from india and new delhi so uh i first start from the u.s president biden speech yesterday that were live and world watched and very uh with high attention how do you analyze the speech of bandana or first invited on taliban namaskar and good evening to everybody um wonderful subject when he talked about the us as the security forces were pulled and we saw how taliban marched into each and every city gradually means in spar of seconds minutes and days to be honest beyond the expectation of everyone nobody expected people were making it like it will take three months then it came to like 30 days then it came to three days but they did there means like so taliban that’s what this is going to be so there was a lot of pressure on the united states like and everything has to be because this was not a local pressure this was a global pressure and uh the answer was required so i think for the first time that he took questions even from the press and the media there has been a lot of pressure from the republican side also lindsey graham who’s our senior senator he just said like you know if even a single american life like been uh so we we will try to impeach the president because the impeachment is very popular segment of the democrats they’ve been doing this drama but here it is the life of i know somebody smiling so here it is the life of an american and u.s is known for when it comes about the evacuation about their citizen and the people those who have helped uh us during this tenure let this be interpreters and also they want to he has promised that they are going to bring everybody back safely and uh as pressure has to be kept on that it has to be we know we have so many people over there right now forces and he is admitted we don’t even have the exact number of people american citizen those who are there and we are expecting this to happen and he has given a deadline that this should happen by the august the 30th means like next week or so so looking forward for that if it doesn’t happen he will face the music and we will be all going and talking about that thank you oh okay so nice the face that means you can identify how the indian prime minister and that is so in the technical mode and the classical mode and literary modes just we spoke about that without naming them look uh thank you but we have to understand that india india’s stand is very clear india has already said that we are not pro terrorist uh thoughtful country we always again against of terrorism and there is no good terrorism and bad terrorism but the surprisingly surprisingly the terrorism has a concrete definition and and under that definition india india india uh believes that any kind of any kind of atankwad if someone is doing any terrorist incident in africa and that that group only is doing the same incident in america then america will define that no no no no no in africa it’s a good terrorism and if it is in america it’s a bad terrorism so it this definite definition doesn’t matches with the india’s thought i am very surprised that the is roaming very freely in kabul’s road and here and there all the visuals are coming out we all know america has declared haqqani as a terrorist group haqqani network america has issued even u.n has issued a red corner notice to the but why they are not taking action is on the road please go and capture him but you are not taking any action what are you doing and you are giving speech that uh this is the time this is enough we can’t why first and why fourth president has spent time on uh afghanistan what was the need of that what was the need of that why why first time only the american force has sent to afghanistan if afghanistan has fight their own battle so it will they should do it from the day one why america has taken charge on behalf of the afghani and now they are leaving that land with the status quo as it is i am surprised that uh they have said that we have trained afghani military but i think they have trained very well the taliban so they are they they have they are full of the u.s u.s weapons u.s helicopters the tankers the the the bastard vehicles and all that so america has to think about their uh thought and they should very clear about the terrorism because this kind of part is going to be a very poised for all our world now this is afghanistan we have seen the the the what kind of uh action america has taken in iraq and what what happened in that isis the ice is still there but iraq as the country has destroyed what they have done in syria and what they have their role in africa also we all know and now it’s pakistan the fact is wherever the american army landed that land has vanished this is the one of the fact we should accept it and we should the world should come together and make a concrete definition against this terrorism and with a concrete roadmap they should move ahead maybe it will not beneficial for the america or power five countries but it will be beneficial for the humanity and the rest of the countries because yesterday that if if in this universe i am not safe it means the world is not safe i am safe you are unsafe it doesn’t matter for me it is not a not a philosophy that will be beneficial for the world thank you terrorism in terrorism and uh not bad not good so uh i love you uh how just today uh uh just how to analyze the both indian prime minister’s speech and the u.s president biden’s speech yesterday thank you so much and good evening to all the panelists uh first of all i’d like to talk something about the european perspective when such a thing is happening that a country which was put back on track and it was going uh you know in the right direction suddenly america takes this decision because actually it was not certain it started off with the trump government and you know they are evacuating and with no support given to the army which in principle was trained by them and like-minded countries or democratic countries and europe as yet they are still you know groping in the dark like what to do what stand should they take and european union also has not done anything they’re still thinking about what to do so that is how europe stands and if i come back to your question which is what president baden is saying and how modi is behaving the two actually very opposite directions anyway the the deal was started off by president trump and it has come as a package to president biden i’m not too sure if he wanted to do it or if they wanted to continue there but it has come to him as a package so he used to do something but the problem is that every time he says something it turns out that it is a lie now this is this is you know something very incredible because you know they have one of the most powerful intelligence agencies in the world we’re talking about cia and they could not tell how long will the talibans take to take over how many capitals would they take or if they will take over kandar in so many days what was the pattern they did not have any feedback on you know in case the afghan forces will fight if they’ll fight if they’ll not fight so what is the point every time he opens his mouth next day you know uh it turns out that what he said uh is a lie it’s incorrect and then he comes up so one nice thing is done is that he’s come up and said okay i take the responsibility of this but it is not dry responsibility that you take you are a world power you got into it not only did you get into it you got other countries nato countries and other democratic countries i think into it india is into it and we spend some 3 billion dollars in you know making up of afghanistan so if we see it from the modis point of view he has taken a very unlikely stand in in a situation where everybody and the first and foremost thing is to you are trying to get back your you know your citizen and your diplomats out of the country and the people who helped you the interpreters the afghan interpreters and other afghans who were on your side of the of the game you know you are trying to get them back and they are saying that there is no problem and this can happen only till the time the americans are controlling the the airport and it is nothing big because they have signed this deal in doha that you are not going to touch even then yesterday there was a bus of 150 people of indians who were trying to come and it vanished and it was due to the intervention of the indian uh you know government they had made up this ccs and lots of senior ministers were part of it and because of the interventions then the taliban said they had even confiscated the the passport and then the taliban said no we were just checking the passports and then they released them and these people were able to catch the air force plane there first of all they were not letting air india go in and since air india could not go in the idea was to get a a private plane since air india could not go in i would like to say so it is very clear when what changi has said that from indians point of view it is very clear that we are not with the terrorists the russians can’t be with them the americans have supported them because they created them and then they went against them the chinese are playing the double game pakistan is celebrating as if you know there is you know the somebody is getting married the prime minister is getting married for the seventh time or something like this and there is no celebration in this i mean you talk to anybody who you know afghani i’ve contacted my friends who were studying with us you talked to any of ghani they are in favor of india they say we prefer we prefer india you know approach to afghanistan rather than let’s say pakistan they don’t even want to hear that name or the russia or the chinese the chinese are trying to say i mean just imagine there are muslim countries and countries like turkey and pakistan they are saying you know if this is islamic but they are not letting the afghans go to their country they are making borders the sealing borders turkey is putting up a fence so that the afghanis don’t come and here comes a country which is a majority hindu country it’s a secular country no doubt and it is giving e-visa to anybody afghani who wants to come to india that is what this current government is about and that is what is modi’s thought process about okay i understood what just try to point it out and i’ll check the uh all the points for the anita but before that is today now so rakeshi uh how just you that either we are talking about the speeches of yesterday then prime minister modi and the whispers and biden how do you analyze one and how does how do you think in the canadian perspective uh well uh let’s say uh the first thing what you mentioned about the joe biden and prime minister modi let me say prime minister modi is standing tall among all the world leaders and the approach of bharat has been especially since modi has taken the power a very balanced in uh when we talk about the international policy especially towards afghanistan and it is an answer to all those who are saying about bharat’s policy about the ca and all that when we were giving the when we mentioned that the all the minorities of the you know uh uh surrounding countries hindu sex buddhist you know all those people can come now we are providing in a humanitarian on a humanitarian basis even afghanistan muslims of course but that is the true nature of you know you can say that uh humanitarian crisis which is happening and we are providing the visas for them are helping them to come out and who say where they are they are standing through the democratic i think you are heading yeah i think so you have to do something from your side now coming back to joe biden let me say this joe biden uh who was who was like uh not joe biden i would say america was uh called that the the leader of the democracy uh they have miserably fallen uh and uh and under their leadership even the nato has fallen uh you know uh bitterly very badly in that way uh because even they’re trying to uh uh i would say pack their own back by saying that we went over there and we achieved what we wanted to and the world is saying what in the heck what are you talking about it and this some of the visuals uh like it becomes the historic phenomena as it happens like if you remember a few years back there’s in the syria when there is a child was under buried under the face same way similarly when we talk about that the child when when afghan women miss mother who’s giving her infant child to a soldier so how desperate how what is the situation there and this is what usa and america are saying well you know this is the great job and achievement we got it and let me say this this is a very important news uh which just happened that isis which is uh totally miss their you know their muslim uh terrorist organization they are covering it so seems like there is some hand in glove something is going on which is public is not aware isis has disclosed that of course they are not in favor of taliban they are terrorist organization too uh in bharat is doing great uh modi is doing great in that way i’m not here to you know uh to just to talk about him and praise him but definitely at this junction bharata’s different strategy seems like it all the cars are not open yet but it seems seems working so far so good as the afghani people they are there they have seen what kind of democracy whatever the minus points we have it in bharat but still we are far better than a lot of other countries thank you okay uh just uh how the perspective of the actually i look laharjee there is how just uh visa from the government of india for ghani’s and uh so many facilities are going to provide by the narendra modi government to the afghanistan who are interested to come india one number two there is the war on the social media so don’t invite those of you ali’s muslim to india there are so many threesome countries 56 57 why then they go there why they set the door for them what is the politics behind that and how can you please repeat your second course second second can you please repeat because the network there was a network problem your voice was not clear on that time so can you please repeat your second question uh i i just uh i asked you the first question was why the narendra modi government was so soft to afghani you mentioned about we can second question how the and why the muslim countries has closed the door for that migrators of from the afghan why they are already going towards the european countries and india and south asia why not they are going to the muslim countries and this is the culture of the islamic countries here what happened to iraq and what happened to syria when they were battle fighting their battle which which uh islamic countries have given support to them neither iran nor uh uh pakistan nothing neither turkey and other country nobody has supported iraq maybe it’s a shia sunni iran was not supporting because of the sunni but what happened to the saudi arabia saudi arabia is dominated by the shias but they have not supported iraq they have not raised their voice for iraq they have not raised their voice for uh syria also only gaza is a hard touching thing for indian muslim also and other countries muslims also they they fight for palestine so we have to think over that whenever it comes to the islamic country islamic country never gave them shelter it’s india or some european country or other country on the humanitarian ground they gave shelter to those country i think that humanity is and human rights it comes for the european american and indian only otherwise all 57 countries they are the victim only they just need land to expand their islam and and why why bodhi just bodhi government is so it’s not about modi we have a very good relation with afghanistan we have a cultural exchange we always supported afghanistan there is a two reason thought wise afghanis are very broad they are the progressive muslims and they want to live their life freely as india india india lives there is no restriction on indian muslims or indian hindu or other communities just like that that’s why they like indian culture that’s why they like indian indian land the indian soil they they like the most and second thing is strategically afghanistan is a very important country for us because pakistan iran russia and china all our we can say that what is those tana where we have a good relation with russia also we all know what kind of relation with pakistan and china so we have a very lots of defensive establishment over there we have a strategic establishment over there our paramilitaries are there for the security of that rochaba room which touches through the pakistan and china also and we keep eyes on our enemies countries also and our country also you want their what is what kind of relation they are moving here and there so this country starts strategically very important foreign like that so nice of you just whatever i expecting you but you just uh just did it thank you uh uh just how how this uh uh why this uh need what the need of president biden to just reoriented just reaffirm whatever they have done and just trying to claim what they have done that is right see as the some parts of the world criticizing english like anything as i already mentioned because after a long criticism global criticism we are listening like you know because it should have come like uh evacuation of the forces from afghanistan had to happen today tomorrow or day after tomorrow but they always say transition has to be done you cannot just evacuate overnight kind of thing and you decide because what actually has happened as we say that as me being an american taxpayer we are at loss to be honest let me be very honest with you we spend our money every dime of our taxpayers has gone into it we lost our soldiers also and on the contrary to it i come from bharat like you know because we have seen how the taliban and the isis relationship has been there and uh what is going to be coming in future that is scary situation to be honest like you know and uh we’ve been always advocating about that like this should not have been like the way it has happened you’re seeing because i said there is uh uh a few days ago i think uh somebody mentioned like oh there is a politics involved into the trump statement and stuff like that but till even today trump has much more supporters in america than the byron to be honest like if you just see that there’s a recent survey also and uh it should have been done the way it has because now he’s calling for a g7 summit like he talked to uh uk he talked to france he talked to germany that they want to conduct a g7 in next week so what will be the outcome it is not i said that it is not about like who is nobody is means like a powerful what do you mean by powerful like you know because you have to because if people if the world was seeing it to you that way but his claim that they are going to get like we still have forces there because uh and i want to share one thing because our veterans are not very happy because the veteran organization they are not very happy because they lost so many of their uh brothers in the forces so they said what for we did that we need to know that because and then our country became a joke because i work with the us veterans also so there is another segment of it you have to see like you know because foreign like you know we lost our was there any need for us to be so that is also one component now let’s see what happens and the whole eyes of the world is on to them like and now you are opening the door because uh as the pictures and the videos are bringing some sympathy in the mind of people people are very very because they forget but this is going to be syria too or what because good afghanis and there can be some people those who are bad elements also they can also penetrate in there so this is what the main worry is for the future let this be in india let this be in u.s whosoever the country gonna means like be taking the refugees like you know because in the case of india we’re talking about so much has happened after the poll in west bengal there was nothing happened from the central government but when it comes to the foreign country the foreign nation like you know afghanistan you have so much compassion overnight and you’re talking about like so this is i cannot see that through to be honest like i’m being very upfront with you okay uh so nice just as uh uh anita mentioned previously a good terrorist and bad terrorist so i think uh whatever i extracting from your i just thought that’s the good afghanistan bad afghanis good muslims and bad muslims that is the variety i think i’ll come to you but just after taking the aloha comment and uh so that is what the muhammad has to do it also you are accepting it thank you you are so nice of you so i look largely uh that just uh muslims should uh learn from the love nation just as soon as understand the situation and what’s this this comment on the right or right and wrong is wrong i agree agreed i’ll just take a you know take certain points which the previous speakers have said um and i mostly agree with the with what anita said and then i uh when we talk to about vandanaji a soldier dead is a solitary is to be honored and they’re doing great service to any of the countries which is a democratic country so this situation right now is between the democratic countries and the countries which have been established by a handful of terrorists we cannot equate both of them if we come to real numbers in the last 20 years i think usa has not lost more than 47 soldiers of course yes it’s been very taxing on the taxpayers but then this money has also gone back to the american companies which was supplying the arms so it is going out to one box and it is entering into another box that is one thing and the contract was also given to the construction contract was also given to the american company only yeah that that’s there are many other things just uh if we go into details we’ll be talking only united states of america but apart from this apart from this if you see almost all the countries who are in there i mean we’re talking about why is uk mom you know whenever america says something uk is the second one so you don’t know who is husband and who is wife now uk is mom germany is not saying anything france is not saying anything and why india is into this we are not party to it we were not called anywhere the russians didn’t support us we were not in doha we did an extra mile we went there got in touch with them we’ve got excellent relationship the only thing i which is just now come back to my head of neeta which i don’t agree we have good excellent relationships with the with russia and also with iran in case iran is angry today is because of the congress government which didn’t pay them all uh you know oil which they bought in the lot of time and some mistakes which india has also made vis-a-vis america so we have a terrorist kind of episode everywhere because you terrorizing other countries why europe is not saying anything is because they cannot go against the will of united states of america because they have a north atlantic treaty they cannot go against it so america has also been using similar kind of tactics with the democrat democratic countries they never asked anybody so we cannot at any cost support a group like uh you know the taliban is there that is for one thing now coming to the question of why the muslim countries don’t help the other muslim countries or why the muslims don’t come out in the open the only uniting factor the only uniting factor among them is islam but that is not a factor enough there are many other things which are more important economy is more important human lives are more important then you have your own personal pride hegemony is more important saudi arabia is trying to you know still be the the ruler of the muslim world and turkey wants to step in and pakistan also wants to use turkey to you know have the islamic bomb there and probably they can destroy the whole world because they have the bomb and the only place wherever there are atrocities within the muslim world that is not a word from anybody or but in case the israelis touch something or the indian stuff something that something goes wrong then the whole you know gang and group it starts off and what they’re trying is now they are trying everybody is trying to clean the face americans are trying to clean their face and the taliban is they want to you know tell the whole world in pakistan is different the early taliban was something like this and their statesmen are as good or as bad as president biden’s statement they say something today and then you see the people of afghanistan are standing against them this taliban is totally different because they have given the command of kabul to the haqqani network so this is the very different kind of taliban we should understand and we should respect it i think there is a based on the all the terrorist groups [Applause] is not able to uh not able to arrest him apart from all the red corner notice and lookout notice and terrorist declared uh internationally declared terrorist america is not able to arrest him no no it is not that they’re not able to arrest it it is not in their interest at the end of the day who trained the talibans for them it was the haqqani uh you know partially only they only did that so why would they they are governed handing with the americans there is no doubt about it no afghan people are fighting afghan women have come out and when we talk about afghanis we should make difference afghanis are the people who are 19th of august wanted to celebrate their independence day in 1990 and they had the afghani flags they did not have the white flags he could be happy that something like this has happened but this is very stupid it is similar to you know it’s very good and then in the in the newspapers and in the social network it was came up now this taliban is a moderate taliban what moderate eleven if you see the videos which are coming which the newspapers are not showing because they’re so horrendous you see people sitting and one by one they are being killed you know the the afghan forces people and the hands of the people are being cut indiscriminate firing we talk about you know one american black you know is mistreated by a policeman and there is you and cry all over the world people are being killed and butchered not even like animals i mean even if you go for hunting you don’t kill people like that and they are killing their own people and the world there is so many issues raising the fingers i think so uh uh always always stand by i don’t say hi though so especially the smiling face i don’t know why there’s two footage that that okay so uh that is how to see the all scene us india and this all terrorist group who had supported taliban and now what will be the next move number one number two why muslim from the different part of the world who has just taken shelter in the different european and american countries has raised any voice against that terrorist what’s the reason very significant and most important point uh uh i agree with that two minutes sir okay according to this 38 minutes already done the program uh 38.4 seconds thank you sir yes okay thank you uh what aloji has mentioned i i mostly agree with him in that way definitely uh and uh you know somehow i i differ with the anita uh to just to mention it that uh when we are talking about the talibans actually they are trying to be they are trying to level their label best to be sober now they are given their means the face they have put on themselves before they were openly now they are trying to do to hide uh but there is no the the nature has not changed as per question goes about everybody has spoken about it and the whole world is speaking about it uh when we are talking about the way talibans have treated or they are treating other and how afghanis women and even man they are coming out and the next battle is seems like it’s going to be in pancho valley so it is not over that it is not you know when it’s called it is not over till it is over so this is not over yet the saga is not over yet but at the same time when you mention the uh the last question when you mentioned that uh why other muslim countries are not uh uh you know bringing see it is in there i think uh miss maybe this will be a conspiracy theory but seems like you know somewhere it is coming to my mind that the muslims countries they have their one thing in mind because for them if they bring other muslims to their country it is no benefit for them because they have to feed them or it will be burdened for their economy while the same muslim when they will go to other countries they will populize more and on the name of it then again the same mother sign all those teachings will go on and when the time to call for islamist world and sharia law and all those people they will come back and okay yeah so we have the voice so this is this is i think there’s a larger conspiracy which is working that’s why they are not and they are not bothered they are not bothered about it we have to be this is the right time in my understanding the focal point should be the discussion point should be sharialla is are we accepting if sharia law is good for afghanistan then it is good for everywhere okay and our last thing i want to mention bharat is the second largest muslim country in the world we should have more say on it to hell with anybody and everybody we have more we have more say on this on islamic matters when we talk about it and so don’t don’t worry sir just one thing on the common civil code and it will be very very soon and the the change of the indian politics will be changed that is one question and that they are so hopeful i said that we should have more say and and the chinese and we should not recognize them in that way we are so hopeful with that modi government what china has done with the muslims and islamists all the world has been just seeing and analyzing but no has dare to say speak about the china that is different issue but one question is always at that point let me let it wind up please but one question is always pertinent and important for us and for everybody for any muslims if why muslimness therapist why is terrorist is muslim that question should be raised and is swollen i cannot hear you no well actually uh maybe uh i i i why why muslim is terrorist why terrorist is muslim why the relation with the muslim interest and what for that that is my last thing so nice what is the fact is there just i’m trying to just leave here and for the next discussion we’ll lead to the next discussion this is continuous and this thanks just to all panelists who are joined here uh for this after the us and indian premier they spoke on the taliban and how the impact on the world politics this world will see and we will also realize time to time what whatever good and bad for the humanity apart from the caste and release thank you very much [Music]
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