“Is Jake Paul a ‘real fighter’?” Michael Bisping and Ariel Helwani breakdown #PaulWoodley

“Is Jake Paul a ‘real fighter’?” Michael Bisping and Ariel Helwani breakdown #PaulWoodley

there he is mike what’s up mario i’m good how are you doing what’s the crack the crackies i’m here in las vegas um commenting tonight’s fight card and then the crack is a fly well i run straight over to the airport i catch a red eye i go by detroit i wait there for two hours then i get to cleveland and then the party starts wow that you you know it’s a big fight you know it’s a big event when the count graces us with his presence so he’s doing ufc tonight which you can watch on bt sport of course uh in the uk and then uh he’ll be a part of the jake paul coverage against terran woodley sunday night on bt sport box office i’d be a miss mike if i don’t congratulate you on your new deal commentating for the ufc you announced that earlier congratulations my friend yeah i appreciate it ariel thank you very much um yeah no i’m very happy you know i’m i’m truly obsessed with the sport of mixed martial arts and combat sports in general to be honest so to be calling fights for another four years for the ufc yeah i’m very very happy but still we’re not here to talk about how great i am or potentially okay the congrats whatever you may call it it is appreciated wow okay uh so okay let me ask you about that that’s a great starting off point you talk about how you love the sport of mixed martial arts you’re obsessed with it it’s part of your identity it’s part of your life do you view this fight on sunday mike tyrone woodley former ufc welterweight champion in my opinion top four greatest ufc welterweight champions of all time george st pierre matt hughes kamara usman tyron woodley that’s the mount rushmore right there do you view this as mma versus boxing do you view tyron woodley as the representative of the great sport of mixed martial arts who’s trying to go out there and defend our sport and shut up this kid jake paul or is this just the fight is is that making it out to be too big of a deal the way i put it yeah i think so i think it is you are making too big of a deal of it there i i know that’s not what you think you’re just asking the question um i i like aaron woodley and i think he’s a phenomenal fighter but he had his time you know so right now it wouldn’t be fair you know jake paul is 24 years old probably not even in his prime yeah i was going to say in his pride but not in his prime yeah he’s starting off his career as a young man tyrone woodley i think he’s 40 now right he’s 4 39 39. very nice pardon me he’s 39 years old his best days are behind him with respect you know now of course there’s nothing to say that he can’t win this fight and all the rest of it but to say that we’re sending off we the ufc or the mma world are sending over their best representative to take on jay paul that’s not accurate we are sending over we again we’re sending over a uh highly accomplished fighter a guy that had a great career a guy that should be in the ufc hall of fame um but his best days are behind him and i think that’s that’s that’s that’s not me being mean it’s just the way it goes you know you can’t see the champion of the world forever you have your time in the sun hopefully it lasts a long time and then guess what the sun goes down simple as that okay let me ask you this considering everything that you just said there he is a former ufc champion he’s fought on the biggest of stages he’s fought at madison square garden et cetera et cetera he’s defended the title jake paul is 3-0 against the likes of a youtuber nate robinson and ben ashburn who was done are you surprised that jake paul is not only the betting favorite going into this fight mike but the line continues to grow in his favor it’s insanity it really is you know it is insanity i honestly don’t know what to expect from this fight i don’t know i don’t maybe tyron goes out there and puts on an amazing display of violence and just destroys him and shows the world what a competent boxer he can be maybe shows the world that hey listen he could have a career as a professional boxer going forward maybe jay paul goes out there and starts using with one punch we just don’t know there’s so many unknown variables but that said even though we have the unknowns to have jake paul as the favorite i find it’s kind of ludicrous it’s kind of insulting to tyron woodley i’m assuming that a lot of that is swayed because jay paul’s a popular figure and he’s got a lot of people putting money on him you know so we know how that works at the bookies but um yeah no no it’s a bit of a slap in the face for tyron i believe okay i also want to ask you about this because as you know let’s call like it is tyron hasn’t looked great in his last four fights right um he has lost four in a row but worth noting maybe to just the boxing fans here who don’t know a lot about him and yes he hasn’t won in three years he has fought the very best welterweights in the world kamara usman the current champion on route to maybe becoming the greatest welterweight champion uh gilbert burns number one contender right colby covington current number one contender and vicente luca who’s on a roll like those aren’t bonds nothing to be ashamed of but he did lose those fights in three of those fights he didn’t even look like himself right it felt like he was stuck in neutral like he was gun shy like he just couldn’t get off now the luke fight the last fight he was aggressive felt more like the tyrant of old but really that was his undoing because he ended up getting finished i’m worried for his sake that if he was feeling out of his comfort zone in the sport in which he’s most comfortable how is he going to feel in a sport in which he is truly out of his comfort zone boxing is different than mma as you know are you afraid that the time that we saw in those first three fights of the losing streak where he couldn’t get off where he wasn’t active where he wasn’t aggressive is going to show up on sunday night as well i definitely have some concerns without question you know and the reality is and again it’s i’m not trying to kick a man while he’s down and tom’s not down he’s doing great things you know i mean he’s got a great rap career he’s making tons of money from this so he’s not down you know what i mean but i’m not trying to pour on the misery if you will you’re just telling you like it is but the reality is ariel that even though he lost those four fights prior to those fights even the fights that he won he never had the highest output and then towards the end in those those last four or five certainly he was always just looking for that perfect shot and people often say you know it’s it’s a gift and a curse when you knock somebody out with the right hand or a left hook or whatever it is because then you hunt for it all the time towards the end those last few fights tyrone was just he would always just even when he thought damien meyer he just skirt around the perimeter of the octagon looking for that one shot looking for the perfect punch and he never had a high output and what he was doing now is number one he’s not doing himself any favors because he’s a boring style but still you know you’re letting the fight pull away from you your opponents outworking you they’re getting ahead they’re getting takedowns to jabbing your face off whatever it may be and i am concerned that he’s going to do that again against jay paul jake uh as i said because he’s young with when you with youth comes ignorance you know like my kids they go off and do well not not the oldest two but the lucas he’s always doing stupid stuff because he doesn’t know you can get hurt you know what i mean when you’re younger you’re a little bit more ignorant and he’s undefeated okay again undefeated against scrubs but still when you’re undefeated you honestly feel you can beat anybody on the planet he’s the bigger guy he’s the younger guy he’s got all the hype around him so i don’t think jake’s going to be intimidated by the moment in fact i was your face to face last night and fantastic job by the way but um you know he he’s jake seems to be in the driver’s seat throughout all of this so uh we could see tyron go out there and absolutely destroy it that is a very possible scenario we could also also see tyron turn up and not really do much you know and and that’s why i’m not overly confident in picking tyron as a winner one thing tyron has going for him is the fact that he has gone 25 minutes multiple times on the biggest of stages in title fights madison square garden las vegas pay-per-view anaheim jake paul for all the rounds that he has sparred has never gone past the second round of a boxing match right so we’re talking five minutes total right however yesterday his head coach his head trainer jake paul’s head trainer bj flores who’s an accomplished former boxer himself said we hope this fight goes longer we think that he is going to get tired in the first or second round we want to show that we have the better cardio is that just the coach talking up his guy or do you think there’s something to that do you think that tyron woodley has cardio issues i don’t think tyler necessarily has cardio issues um pushing 40 maybe they’re starting to creep in but for jay paul i mean his coach is going to say that you know your coach never comes out and says negative things about the fighter well they shouldn’t do anyway even if they have some concerns you keep that to yourself but but the the going into the later rounds is is something that i am curious to see how jake handles because you know i’ve i’ve given a lot of credit to jay paul for choosing to do this you know he has the family has the fortune you know apparently he’s a very wealthy man you know and generally that’s what fighters are chasing so he doesn’t need to do this but even though he has the money and he’s training is he truly pushing himself to the limit is he is he pushing himself to the brink of exhaustion is he running sprints and like almost throwing up and his coaches on his case because it’s easy to go out there for a round for two rounds for three rounds and look good but are you getting out of bed at 6am you’re running hill springs so you’re doing everything you can to be in the best possible condition because i learned very uh it took me a while to figure out although in the kickboxing fight that i had conditioning is one of the most important things to have in a fight once you get tired it doesn’t matter this isn’t a game football it’s not a game of basketball you can’t hide you can’t drop back it’s you and your opponent and the referee and once you get tired it’s the loneliest place in the world because you’ve got an opponent that’s trying to beat you up trying to knock you out do physical damage to you and you literally can’t even hold your hands up it is a horrible feeling and it doesn’t matter how skilled you are once the cardio goes you’re in deep deep trouble and as jake pushed himself is he a victim of his own success this is what i’m saying as i said at the start of the life there’s so many questions here that we just don’t know jake’s unproven tyron is proven you know he’s been there at the highest level 100 that cannot be doubted but does he still have it and does has jake ever had it you know these are the questions tyler might go out there and just wow the world jake paul man knock him out with one point to do what ben asking did we just don’t know or we could have eight rounds of excitement i hope we get that i want to see a really good fight but uh a lot of unknowns ariel isn’t it amazing that the last time we did this was before the conor mcgregor fight against dustin poirier the trilogy in july and we were talking about that very thing once you make that money it’s hard to pound the pavement at 6 a.m jake paul is doing this the opposite way he’s coming into the sport with all the money he’s almost trying to like reverse the whole process and and and and kind of break everything down to be a fighter who’s now making you know big paydays but mentally like this kid has been making money for the last few years he’s walking in how rare is it for someone to be walking into the fight game as a multi-millionaire already so that’s the thing that i’m wondering come the fifth round come the sixth round when he’s staring at tyron woodley and he’s like what i have to do to get this guy out of here i wonder what’s going to happen here right then we’re going to really find out if jake paul has it in him and so let me ask you this michael and it’s a simple question it might sound like a weird question in your opinion your opinion means more than mine and anyone else is here is jake paul a fighter do you consider jake paul a fighter that’s a good question ariel and and honestly i could probably answer that after sunday night because right now i don’t know right now this could be a little a little hobby of his a little stint a little blink in his life you know a little you know uh something on the timeline obviously yeah you know because it’s cool people see that certainly with the growth of the ufc and boxing is as popular as ever people see it on tv they want to do it you know there was a phase there you know and i know this is on the bt sport boxing but obviously my background’s in mixed martial arts there was a phase there with the ufc everyone’s walking around with tap out t-shirts and all the rest of it people see it on tv and it’s cool and they’ve all got the t uh the tattoos and they used to have the mohawks and everything they see it and i think i see a lot of people now chasing careers in combat sports whether it’s boxing or mixed martial arts that realistically shouldn’t be there you know what i mean there’s a lot of people because it’s not a game and we’ve seen a lot of tick-tockers and we’re seeing celebrity boxing and we’re seeing uh there’s two big massive strong men the mountain and someone else i forget who it is that they’re gonna fight soon you know because oh it’s the latest crazy it’s all fun and games and it’s great and as men they get to go train and they get to like tough for a little bit well guess what it’s dangerous things can happen things can you know really go wrong i have to pop this eyeball out right now i’ve got two fake knees you know it’s not a game and i do i do uh get a little bit annoyed when i see people approaching it from this entertainment aspect because there is an honor in fighting and and and i feel that sometimes we’re getting away from that so is jake paul a fighter i honestly don’t know i don’t know there is maybe he is he talks like a fighter he taught he’s saying the right things or maybe this is just a little phase for him make some money to use tyron’s term get some clout you know i hate saying that because everyone says it but still uh you know maybe just trying to get some clout be cool you know take some pictures who doesn’t want to jump on top of a ring when they’re just knocked somebody out everybody wants to do that when you see that on tv when someone like when i won the belt you jump on top of the octagon or in the top on the top rope and you’ve just beaten your opponent there’s 20 000 people there and you’re the center of attention who doesn’t want to experience that so of course jake wants to experience that is he doing it because that looks cool or is he doing it because he’s a fighter we don’t know when i was and i’ve always been a fighter from the day i was born but even still when i was fighting i would push myself to the absolute limit because i was always broke absolutely pissed bro my mum had no money but i remember having to go and you know knock her up at a.m and get her out of bed say mom let me five quid so i can put some petrol in the car so i can drive to work i i never wanted to go back to that lifestyle i got a little bit of taste of success and i had money in the bank and i was able to have nice things i was able to pay the bills and just just live a normal life and be happy i never wanted to go back to being pissed broke and bloody going to work in my dirty clothes coming back at the end of the day absolutely exhausted and for what to still be broke at the end of the week so that’s what got me out of bed running running sprints sparring hard hitting pads with intensity doing everything i could to get to the next level and to stay there is jay paul doing that because he hasn’t got the same motivation i assume the motivation that he has is because he fancies himself as bit of a tough guy and he loves the attention well that’s not quite the same thing is there not something to be said though for the fact that he has stepped through the ropes four times once as an amateur three times as a pro regardless of opponent you go through the process you cut the weight you fight any man doesn’t that just make you a fighter i’ve never done that so i have respect for it you’ve done it countless times as a fellow fighter as a former champion do you not can you not at least say like all right man you might not be doing this for the same reasons you might not be coming from the same place that i came but hey respect you stepped through those ropes you got punched in the face yeah 100 100 and i do give him that respect you know if you look at my youtube page i did a video last night and i gave him a lot of credit for it because he doesn’t have to do this and it is tough and tyron mothers don’t walk in the park and as we see as we’ve seen this has escalated this week and it’s very very personal and you know tyron’s showing up tyrone wants to do damage and to be honest tom’s got a lot more pressure on him than what jay paul has we’ve just talked about the money that he has he doesn’t really need this tyrol needs this okay you know and and he’s trying to reinvent himself as a box he’s trying to do away with the last four bosses he’s trying to say to the world hey listen and to any promoters out there hey i’m still a bookable guy i’m still worth those big checks that you might send my way but it’s got to be j paul to do that and if he doesn’t do that then the tarot model in the fight is pretty much done because it’s a big gamble it’s a good it’s a it’s a good payday by all accounts the best party of his life and that’s all well and good but is he going to be the last one of his career because i tell you what if he gets beat by jake paul there ain’t going to be many more offers you know so for tyrone coming into this one i think we’re going to see a very motivated tire on and we’re going to see a lot but also sometimes that can be your best friend and your worst enemy because the pressure like you mentioned before with the vincent luca fight he was under pressure there and he knew he had to come out and he had to swing but that was kind of his undoing you know i say it all the time this controls everything it’s a physical sport but the mind what what is tyron’s mental state because jake’s he’s cool as a cucumber right now yeah i’m so happy you said that about the pressure uh i said it to tyron he disagreed honestly i think all the pressure is on tyron’s shoulders if jake loses this fight i just lost to a former ufc champion it was just my fourth pro fight no big deal i don’t know how tyrant can fight and detain and again this is not me knocking jake i consider him a fighter but if you lose to jake paul at this stage of jake’s career as a former ufc champion i don’t know how you can continue i feel like this is his chance to right the wrongs of the last three years if he loses this fight i mean let’s call like it is and correct me if you feel otherwise unfortunately and i don’t think it’s fair but unfortunately the aspirin fight kind of changes aspen’s legacy right the way he looked the shape he was in and that’s not fair but i feel like now everyone talks about that when talking about bad aspirin maybe in five years that will change it would be a travesty if this is in the first paragraph of tyron woodley’s fight bio the fact that he lost to jake paul and that’s why to me all the pressure’s on his shoulders he has to win this everyone is saying you got to win this for us for the mma community and by the way isn’t it amazing how they never treated tyron with respect to fans they always like you know wanted him to go away and all this stuff and now everyone’s like how fickle are these bad do it for us tyron shut him up do it for the community i mean he has to just laugh at that i find that laughable that they are now telling him like come on tyron we want you to win do it for the mma community when when he was champion you know this they treated him like crap right yeah yeah but i won’t complain a lot he brought hey he says it himself he brought it upon himself to a degree yeah you got it dead he kind of did but but you’re back listen uh in combat sports you’re only as good as your last fight and that’s just the reality you know and for tyron you know it seemed like a lifetime ago since he knocked out robbie lawler josh cost check out that good fight stephen wonderboy thompson because then it was damien mayer and then it was some of the ones and then the four that he lost in a row so right now there until the damn fight was fantastic i mean that was a master class it was one punch at a submission i mean that was fantastic it really was and in the world title fight but he’s lost four in a row and if he loses to jay paul unfortunately you’re only as good as your last fight simple as that and in the history books it will sell it we shall world champion lost four in a row to good people then gets beaten by a youtuber the narrative will be he’s done he’s over jake paul if he beats tyron then he’s skyrocketing in terms of credibility in terms of not match-ups and and money fights going forward and as you mentioned if he loses then uh no big deal whatever it’s my fourth fight i went up against the champion in fact even if he loses everyone will give him props wow man you really went for it you really challenged yourself uh and in terms of the mma community well yeah because jake paul is being smart i’ve got to stop saying jay paul it’s calling jake we’re on first name turn um jake paul logan paul ksi uh well i know far too many youtubers i’m just saying um but um um what is it what was i saying oh yeah yeah he picked pen asking and everyone was like this is the representative of the mma community i think i was the only person to say ben ashton’s going to lose bernashun was a smart pick that was genius and he was never a representative of the mma community i’m sorry no chance no chance and tyron again this is really really smart now careful what you wish for because tyrone can knock him out but again he’s picked a guy with a lot of credibility he was sadly on the big downslide he’s like in terms of slide downs it’s like when you go on a roller coaster and you get to the top oh he’s on that big one he’s going down but guess what when you go down what goes down must come up on the roller coaster he can turn around big time wow what a terrible analogy no no i get what you’re saying it almost feels like they’re meeting at some point that the you know one guy’s going like this the other one’s going like this another thing i like about jake paul i like the fact that he talks about fighter pay whether he’s being uh disingenuous or not uh i think he’s speaking a lot of facts and i give him respect for that you know there was once a time mike i’d love if you can clear this up for us there was some rumors that you were in talks to fight him was that legit or was that just like bs i think he again uh i think he just used my name again to get clout to say that you know because audi my manager from paradigm he uh he he called me one day he said yeah uh if there wasn’t an official there wasn’t like a contract off or anything like that but there was an email or a phone call i forget the form of communication but he said his people have been in touch and they made an offer of some money and i don’t think it was serious but i said all right double it see what they say let’s see if they’re serious you know what i mean so i think they came they offered me five hundred thousand dollars i said seriously we’ll consider it for a million but it was i was never like oh i’m fighting jay paul i was like let’s just seriously are and anyway they never came back nothing was ever said you know then me with my big mouth uh obviously i talked about it on my podcast so he got exactly what he wanted but you know that way that wouldn’t be a good if jay paul if he wins do you want do you want him is that what you’re saying oh i’m retired i thought we were gonna build something here mike okay uh so then let me ask you this i i you know i i spoke to the family uh rebecca calm everyone they told me that when love island is on they cannot bother you like you are locked in you watch you’ve binge watched twice beginning to end beginning to end you love love island and you love tommy fury and molly may you are a huge fan fact or fiction oh man i love it i never missed an episode i mean other than the fact that we can’t get it in america no netflix you could go on there oh really do you know what you know what actually i did watch one episode i did watch one episode and i was aghast with horror at what i was i was but rebecca was like my wife for those that don’t know she’s like turn this off now but you know when car crash tv you can’t turn it off i’m like no this is great this is so good see yeah but but uh no just that one episode just that one episode but it was love island australia actually oh okay so not the tommy fury one what do you think of tommy fury i mean he mike one of the best looking human beings i’ve ever laid eyes on i mean i have to say he is incredible this man have you seen him how is he related to tyson fury i don’t understand it they look like two different species i’ll be honest i was laid in bed last night watching one of his fights and i was thinking the same thing he is a handsome devil and have you seen the physique on him yes my god he’s got quite the physique on him he really has and i’ll tell you what i watched the fire last night i forget who was against someone smith i think anyway um i was very impressed with what i saw you can still see that he’s very raw he’s definitely uh still you know finding his groove uh but he had all the uh the tangibles that you need obviously beautiful face hell of a physique uh but he was aggressive he looks to be in great you know he looks to be a good athlete he was very aggressive he had good speed he was confident he wasn’t in control of his range a little bit he would go forward a little too aggressive and every time he was falling into a clinch and things like that but uh but the the the raw ingredients what you need to be a successful boxer or a fighter are definitely on display you know and and and obviously he’s still pretty young in his career so you know he’s going to get better and better you know and what you should see from someone starting their career you don’t expect to see you know a bloody canelo in there or manny i mean he’s still relatively a novice in his pro career uh but i was i was very very impressed high output good shot selections working the body uh and as i said very confident as well um as i said man those deltoids what a physique amazing and uh he is a big boy he’s fighting a guy named anthony taylor who’s a former mma fighter fought for bellator seven and five as an mma fighter has fought as low as 135. this fight’s happening at 180 so a bit of a mismatch but the talk is if tommy wins and if jake wins they’ll match up um you have to run i have to run wayne’s going on at 10 pm uk time on the bt sport youtube channel final word who’s can you make a prediction or are you abstaining where are you going to make it i’ll make a petition tommy fury wins daniel dubois wins can’t believe we are mentioning this guy this guy’s the future of the heavyweight division maybe jake paul might win he very possibly might win oh god is time i’m going to see this no wins okay there it is and yes shout out to dynamite dubois i’m a big fan of his and i look forward to seeing him in his american debut also american debut 4-1 tommy fury good luck on the call tonight mike great doing this with you hope to see you out there in cleveland tomorrow
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