Preaseason Week 3 PREVIEW: Pittsburgh Steelers @ Carolina Panthers

Preaseason Week 3 PREVIEW: Pittsburgh Steelers @ Carolina Panthers

foreign [Music] yo yo yo what’s good what’s popping with the people it’s a lot going on right now it’s a lot going on dave i feel like it’s a monday i feel like it’s a monday show dawg it pretty much can be but yeah we’re about to do a friday show tomorrow so we’ll see how it goes yo we coming to y’all like every day fam like it’s a lot going on uh but the main focus of today’s show is the steelers versus panthers week three preview show but no wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait stop why why is this a main focus of our show with all the great illustrious news that we have today that’s what i’m saying dave we we be remiss invited to talk about these kids i’m gonna be honest with you my brother there ain’t gonna be much to talk about that preseason game and i’m gonna show you we’re gonna show you why there ain’t much of a conversation to be had if you want to keep it a buck and we’re gonna show you why today but now let’s let’s let’s get to the kickers and the trees so let’s let’s let’s take this in chronological order dave so we got to start we got to start uh with uh do we talk about the the first kicker we brought in did we talk about ellerbee did we talk about him already i don’t think we did did we so we we brought in ella b right this this cat uh we brought him in he he practiced well okay he was two for three uh in practice the other day joey sly oh for three um and yo like this yo and he gets cut today so you don’t you don’t you don’t cut the dude that was oh and three but you cut the dude that’s two and three but apparently because he doesn’t have a quote-unquote strong leg okay well i mean if he can’t kick the ball into the end zone man that’s that’s worse right no no well yeah yeah that matters so we don’t know but we don’t know maybe he had to be three for three and be able to do touchbacks because the i guess the complaint is that he can’t kick for kickoffs he wouldn’t be able to kick the ball as far as joey sly so that’s why he got cut um but does it so you don’t go in bro you don’t care about the coverage thing but you got cut you know you got but at the same time dave this did let me break this down to you why i say that doesn’t matter much because you have something called kickoff coverage there’s something to help you out and help defend you uh defend the you know a guy from taking the football back you have help you have help in that regard wait so so you know what that means right that means we don’t really have too much faith in our special team’s ability our kickoff coverage ability to stop these tds from coming i won a fantasy championship playing the colts defense not because the colts had a good defense oh no no no because they were playing against the panthers and their panther special teams was the dash what made me a thousand dollars that day so pretty good stuck at all so that being said you know we care about the strong leg of joey slide his kickoff ability more than we care about actual the kicking of the field goals and scoring points that’s how i take it well i mean there’s there’s more you know you know if they think our office is going to be as good as they think as as as much as they’re hiding our quarterback we might we might actually be kicking the ball off a lot this year and not be kicking as many field goals because they practice the red zone so maybe the kickoffs are more important off of that dave you you are doing a lot of defending here i’m just nervous doesn’t make any sense listen i’m just having fun with this that’s all i’m doing so that being said uh we’ll talk i guess we’ll talk about denzel perryman a little after this right well let’s go and get the kicker show over with so dave we proceeded to trade uh a seventh round pick the seventh round or a conditional excuse me a conditional seventh round pick that’s important conditional is very important in this matter okay we traded a conditional seventh round pick for another kicker so at one point we had three kickers on the roster quickly got rid of one of them we got rid of ellerbee um so what i’m hearing is that we traded we traded greg little to the dolphins for set for us for a kicker for a condition for a conditional kicker because we don’t because we don’t have to give up the pick if he make plays two games right well we don’t know that is that the case that’s what i was hearing but i don’t know i gotta call i don’t yeah we don’t we don’t know the conditions of the conditional but usually it’s a usually when you talk about conditional picks it’s usually around one making a team and around the amount of games you play that’s usually some of the conditions that surround a conditional pick so if he doesn’t make the roster then we might get our pick back so it may it just depends on what the condition is we don’t know yet uh there’s some rumblings out there but i don’t know for sure so we’ll see we’ll see what happens um so i don’t know but at the end of the day we we brought in uh ryan santoso uh part of me if i am not pronouncing that uh correct but uh this this dude was a backup kicker for the giants he stood out in camp so he was the backup kicker for graham gonna know yes so we we got the guy that wasn’t good enough to beat out graham gonna which we cut and because joey’s slide beat him full circle full circle dave full circle we are here getting get them and leftovers is what i’m hearing yes and it’s never a good thing when you get and get them as leftovers all right so let’s let’s just let’s just put that out there but he did spend time with the lions and the titans um before he got to the giants he spent some time on the practice squad last year uh and you know he did some punting too so could he could punt the football and he’s a big dude he’s like six foot five 260 i believe is what they said it’s a big big big boy so his rad score got to be crazy his rad score got to become why they brought him in we gotta check that kicker ass score what’s his name his ryan santoso oh boy you out here get me in trouble ryan i know how to say ron i know how to spell ryan s-a-n-t-o-s-o got it again pardon me if i am uh not selling saying that correctly but this is a big big kicker uh and so i know his rad score got to be crazy do they even have rash scores for kickers i don’t know it doesn’t look like it no i didn’t think so uh so that being said we have ryan santoso oh hold on wait wait oh we got one he got a rash hold up he he was drafted he was on throughout the free agent in 2018. let me see let’s see if we got arrests from like we’re looking at all the ones the lions had come on come on come on oh no rash don’t oh okay they don’t matter they don’t measure it so they didn’t measure his but he was a punter he was a punter when they picked him up by the way yeah shout out to rox 66 265 that’s a big dude you have no choice but to have a big leg pulse at that point i mean come on now so how would you feel how would you feel if we keep them to do both oh yeah i think that’s great i think that’s awesome that’s something yeah that’s a roster spot so i think that’s awesome i mean especially if you’re giving up a seven round pick for a dude uh then yeah that’d be awesome that’d be awesome but let’s let’s unpack this a little bit dave now now how do you feel about us giving up a seventh round pick for a kicker what what are your thoughts behind that well it’s conditional right it’s con let’s assume that the conditions are going to go through and he makes the team let’s let’s assume that and that’s as we traded greg a little for a kicker yes that’s what we did yeah you guys can make the debate on whether or not it was worth it and it’s the kicker that we don’t even know is gonna be any good we’re hoping that he’s gonna be good we have no idea we’re only gonna have one game to figure this out we got one presenting game to figure this out and he’s gonna have to share it with sly and depending on how the game goes you might not get the opportunity to have those field goals so that’s it’s tough man i we traded greg little away and everybody was happy to get something and then we ended up taking out something to get a kicker i don’t know i feel about that man considering the other needs that we have but it’s a seven round pick so this isn’t different for me i mean most of the time seven round picks don’t make the team so it kind of is what it is we cut a fifth round pick so yeah we did cut a fifth round pick so here’s my thing like i don’t really care about the seventh round pick in isolation like you when you look at this in isolation you’re like alright it’s a seven round pick it’s nothing they don’t really matter much but we started the day yesterday dave with two seventh round picks okay so you can you can move a little bit with when you have two seven round picks maybe trade those you can move around and do moves but we got something else later today and we’ll talk about that later so i’m not sweating it too much from that standpoint i think the bigger beef i have is that you wait until now to decide that you have a kicker problem you you you wait until now five days few days like less than five days before your last preseason game you wait until now to say oh i think we got to kick a problem and for all you guys who think the preseason doesn’t matter then that case we wouldn’t have been out here trying to find kickers in these streets with the last preseason game to go if you guys are telling me they don’t matter they saw a slide out here missing these kicks and they got somebody in there quick then i was like this guy ain’t it let’s go get another one and gameplays pre-season don’t matter [ __ ] again because it does that’s what hey you know what dave you know what’s crazy about it you know we sit up here and the coaching staff sit ups here and and touts the practice reps i got one more thing i got one more thing hey you can’t you could cut me off in the middle sorry i got i just got to finish this off because i just i got to do the chef’s kiss so a few weeks ago when i said there’s something you need to start worrying about nobody’s talking about the first person i said was joey sly you did and here we are you did you did call it dave rule should have rules should have looked at my list maybe i could have helped him out a little bit so so here’s the deal here’s the deal dave we the you you’ve and you’ve heard this too you’ve sat up here and heard matt rule talk about uh you know practice reps and how the starters taking practice reps like they they’re they’re good in practice so the game really doesn’t matter but joey sly was pretty good i mean he was okay in practice he was kept kicking right through the uprights from what i saw he was decent something he had some misses some misses but uh look at here here we go you start missing field goals and games and you missing field goals in practice now it’s starting to compound and uh so it matters when you start missing missed these field goals in these preseason games it all matters bro every all these practice reps the preseason reps it all matters bro live reps in a game matter the pressure is different when you kick it in practice versus when you ticking uh in practice versus when you kick him with somebody on your ass about to take your spot because obviously obviously just like just like steve smith said pressure can make diamonds but it can also flood your basement and joey slide got some plumbing missing in this basement right now because it’s basically about the flood b his basement is flooding right now it’s coming in hot and heavy pause okay this dude got some some issues b so i don’t know by the way guys rasta cuts it’s tuesday 53 they got to get down to 53 on tuesday tuesday they traded for a kicker today today it’s thursday it’s crazy it’s yeah thursday it’s gonna play tomorrow that dude need to arc right now b that’s how crazy it is and noah and noah he need all he need everything and moses and everybody but anyway uh yo yo it’s crazy it’s crazy like we we’ve been saying this like we’ve been saying this you gotta have somebody to bring in to kick during camp even the best kickers even when we had good note even when ron rivera had graham gone over competition we always brought in the kicker during training camp always oh every year we always had another kicker and i uh when i was at the practices what did i point out i always pointed out look at this dude look at this dude over here by himself look at him look at his dude over here by himself chilling i always every practice i would point it out if you those of you that watch the live stream on practice you will see me paying over to joey sloth saying look at him this dude’s just kicking over here there’s nothing he had zero pressure until right now he had zero pressure on him he was comfy and then all you heard from the coaching staff was oh we gotta we got all the confidence in the world in this dude even even in the all even before like camp started we believe in him we believe in this dude he’s it’s it’s not mental he’s good he’s just not i’m not worried about joey slaw i’m not worried about dude we heard that all through minute camp even after last year when we resigned i’m all good with joey slice everything’s gonna work out it’s cool it’s cool it’s cool and then all of a sudden now you bring another kicker days before it’s roster cut down time and then let’s say you make a drastic decision let’s say you cut you you cut them and then this dude you got you haven’t even had enough time to prove whether he’s good or not that’s why you need to have another kicker in the whole training camp so you can successfully evaluate cats we didn’t do that we’re not good at bro we’re not good at evaluating because we were good at evaluating we would have had the situation that we’re about to talk about next you guys keep having faith in this coaching staff if you want shout out to teddy bridgewater by the way when that starting job here we go here we go dave here we go just letting y’all know i just want y’all to be aware if sam dawn doesn’t throw for 300 3700 yards i’ma let y’all know about it i’ll let y’all know about it fam of course we never we never ran a team before and that’s you stating obvious no [ __ ] but we can we have we have an opinion of course we have an opinion we have a show that you’re tuned in to watch obviously you tuned in and value our opinion and speaking of that tuning in make sure you guys like and subscribe if you haven’t already like it’s it’s crazy like for real so here so it’s it’s it’s playing as day we’ve been like we’ve been calling out these things shout out to cody man shout we’ve been calling these things out for a minute bro like we’ve been saying it’s it’s connecting the dots it’s not it’s not really it’s easy we’re just connecting the dots b [Music] we’re just connecting the dots we’ve been saying it we’ve been saying bringing a kicker and then they bring in you don’t see nothing wrong with that and then trade it for one at that when we didn’t have to y’all don’t see y’all don’t see nothing wrong with that you don’t see nothing wrong with calling that out i hate yo i’m i’m really starting to get irritated where everybody just posted this hold on hold on i posted this tweet the other night i said yo like fam like y’all are riding everything this dude does like it’s the god like everything works and it’s perfect like we’re not sitting here oh and two in the preseason like we like we haven’t seen things to be concerned about like there’s obvious things to call out that we are calling out because they need to be called out fam like [ __ ] is not great like if we were the the chiefs if we were the damn chiefs and we were super bowl chance we were the damn bucks i wouldn’t be complaining about [ __ ] i’d be like yo we great the coaching staff is awesome we we we ain’t got [ __ ] to talk about but we not we’ve been we’ve been asked for years b so of course we calling this [ __ ] out and it deserves it my bad day a hashtag he’ll shot in the chat cause hashtag get sick of that [ __ ] i want the pandas to be successful too you ain’t kidding man we all do we gotta call them out that’s what the thing is but the thing is we can’t say this guys we can’t say it’s just pre-season bro because it was just preseason they would have brought in competition for joey sly it’s just preseason it’s not even the preseason it’s the fact that we just did we just we’re just as fans we’re supposed to take everything like every move they make is great and that’s just not the case look at the look at what we did let’s go and jump into a dave denzel pyramid let’s talk about that since everything is so [ __ ] great everything they do is great since everything they do is awesome then they bring in denzel perry when you sign him to a a a two-year deal and then you end up trading him in the same off-season the man didn’t even suit up for the panthers he barely practiced for the panthers and he’s good he didn’t even play a single preseason game either no he didn’t play he didn’t play [Applause] so let’s let’s go ahead and jump on now now explain to me how this is great now explain to me how this was a great thing that we did because we like we like to we like to just praise everything and take everything as it is tell me how that’s a great how that’s great because the dead money’s going to add up okay you got a million debt a million dollars in dead money well y’all don’t care about that because y’all don’t look at the numbers so let me let me let me not even let me not even go there let me not even go to the one positive thing is that he didn’t have that much guarantee money in this deal that’s the one positive thing that comes out of here that’s the one positive thing that came out of that fit fit fit did a good job in structuring that car made sure it was healthy and that there was no guarantee a little little too little guarant a little guaranteed money in that contract so when we did cut them and obviously that’s obvious right because you don’t want to do that because of his injury history he has a bad injury history so you don’t want to put a lot of guarantee money because you know there’s a potential he may not he may be injured you may have to walk away and that’s what we did so that is a positive i’ll give him props for that but holding a player and then releasing a player without him even suiting up yo you got to do your due diligence but they obviously didn’t think jermaine carter what they had the answer was on the roster they obviously didn’t believe in jermaine carter because they went out and signed the dude he comes out he balls out in training camp and earned and took that spot from denzel perryman and i i believe i believe that denzel perryman said yo i’m not i’m not playing back up so he left that’s my opinion i think there’s two layers to it go ahead so my thing is this they brought in nizel perriman to to win that starting job like that was supposed to be his job right that was his job it lit up fired jermaine’s ass and he balled out of his mind and he earned a starting job and then denzel also in between this started talking about how he ain’t vaccinated but the moment he lost that starting job the rope ended bro it was over for him at that point because at that point you’re a risk like if you ain’t starting for the team you are a risk if you ain’t out here being vaccinated and we had a long discussion about that a few weeks ago there’s a difference between being a starter on a squad and being somebody on somebody’s bench you’re easily replaceable at this point and you got hurt so you weren’t even available so now you’re like a injured i don’t know he was hurt i don’t even think he was hurt they said he hurt his foot they said he hurt himself i don’t think he was hurt like that he wasn’t hurt like that he was hurt all he was he didn’t take barely any rest at training camp he might have got banged up a little bit but i don’t think it was enough for him to because i pointed out the first training camp practice i was like yo who’s starting who is star 56 oh that’s jermaine carter fan jermaine carter starring and then he never got he never he never suited up b never suited up at training camp and he didn’t have that red jersey on the whole time that’s fact i was there he did not have a red jersey on the whole time okay so let’s not sit up here and be like oh he was hurt the whole train cuz he wasn’t he was not hurt the whole time he might have been banged up but banged up means you got a red jersey on and he did not have a red jersey on the whole training camp that’s a fact i was there so if he didn’t have a red jersey then i think his vaccination status and the fact that he just didn’t want it he thought it was a given for him did him in because the moment he don’t win that job him being unvaccinated turns into a different type of risk and i know how guys feel about i know how folks feel about the vaccine i don’t care if you want to get the shot or not but the rules are the rules of the nfl but the nfl that’s what lpa agreed upon the rules of the worlds you just saw what happened with cam the rules are the rules guys so at that point when you ain’t the starter you are a risk if you ain’t vaccinated like a lot of these players so i was i was happy to get something for him to be honest with you yep so circumstances let’s let’s talk about what we got because we did get an additional six round pick and we ended up giving up a um a uh a seventh round pick and denzel pyramid so one part another positive thing since i do got to keep i got to provide some balance here we do save three million dollars in cap money in 2022 but we will also eat one million dollars in dead cap this year and one million dollars in dead cap next year so that’s how it how it’s going to work for denzel perryman um and again that cap savings is good we’re going to need every penny uh 2022. so that just that definitely helps just a friendly reminder for folks when you trade somebody the team that straighten the player has to pay to guarantee money yeah so when people wonder why houston’s not too active about trying to trade um deshaun watson it’s because they gotta they gotta pay all that guarantee money money money money trying to guarantee money bro so like and it doesn’t it’s not something that’s gotta and it’s gotta get paid within a i don’t think you can split it between five years i think it’s no no yeah no that that it sells it accelerates the year you trade them it explodes yeah so it accelerates essentially it’s essentially though technically the money’s already been paid it’s just from an accounting standpoint they have to account for in that cap year but technically the money’s already paid yep so but the bottom line is so when people are wondering why isn’t houston just trading the sean why isn’t houston to trading desean dawg houston probably can’t with that cat space because that’s a big cap head that contract got a lot of guarantee but he just signed that deal so he ain’t really got paid so it might be making sense whenever let’s just let the man sit on the bench so yeah so uh going back to denzel perryman again it is a decent move for the future it just doesn’t make sense to sign him in the first place if i i don’t think they knew what they had in jermaine carter jermaine carter went out balled out we saw it towards the back end of last year we know we knew that he was capable of starting uh starting linebacker middle linebacker in this league and he went out there earned that [ __ ] he played well uh at the end of last season and continued to play well in practices he looked good in practice he had a couple interceptions the dude looks good and that’s why i’m concerned and we talk about the right going back to the robbie anderson deal when you got to start thinking about paying these cats jermaine carter is going to be one of them and then dave i don’t even bring up the fact that hassan reddick is also a free agent next year as well so hassan reddick if this dude has another double digit tax season guess what he’s gonna be looking to get paid and i don’t want to if if he balls out i don’t want to hear nothing about this dude not being him walking to another team because we can’t afford him i don’t want to hear nothing okay that now we can’t afford can we pay robbie i’m done i’m i didn’t say that i just don’t know no i’m gonna say it i ain’t gonna pick the player dude like when you when we pay somebody it comes at a cost like this this is an interesting question uh do do i think that louisville yeah i think but fam i like luvu i like luvu and louvo is a hybrid guy too this is i think he puts more of a nail in the coffin for for uh christian miller than anybody else because frankie luvu is a far and above way better than christian miller and i think that because they play the same thing they are the same style guy the the edge slash linebacker and so i don’t know that but i don’t know that he put i don’t know that he put pyramid in trouble per se i think he puts christianity i’ll argue that i think he did from the standpoint of because he has that flexibility and then that could actually create a spot for miller to make this team now on the reserves because now with us straight impairment away i mean the depth ain’t the depth ain’t where we thought it was man so like yeah i think that’s going to help christopher miller have a slot on his team with that trailer i think no you’re right about that louis louvo’s flexibility benefit that her parent meant a bit too but i think about that what her pair meant more was the fact that jermaine carver said no you ain’t taking my job today i earned this job with 52 showed up and looked like a sack of potatoes so i’m not gonna let another 52 take my job so like he was motivated by the number 52 you know and yeah we need to go ahead and retire from two nobody should wear that number no more yeah shout out to shout out to visa man he was the last uh yeah i thought i think john beason john john visa should should call up be like yo don’t don’t put nobody on that number no mo disrespecting the hell out of it yeah man he was a beast too we’re talking we’re talking more about the mediocrity in the number versus the dang on the great versus the greatness in it yeah that’s that’s true that’s very true very very true bro um but all right man so like like i look i i appreciate i appreciate no no it’s just i’m messing with you i miss no no no it’s just i appreciate the fact that federer understood the situation at hand when he came to pyramid and knew that he had to get him out of there because it was obvious that pyramid had no interest to be sitting on the bench you could tell that yeah and dave i think you were right when you called out on twitter i think that that vaccination oh yeah a lot i think that may have had more to do with it than anything else i think that that them the whole competitive advantage thing that matt rule’s been preaching i think that because they saw that that really gave them the the uh the wherewithal to go ahead and say you know what well the thing is it goes back to what we said weeks ago i think teams are willing to deal with it with their superstars but if you hit a damn superstar yep if you’re replaceable and you couldn’t win the starting job and you wouldn’t get that much guaranteed money oh yeah you can go like could you imagine if i think i think i think uh panther nation would be was probably hoping that cam irving and pat that fly didn’t get vaccinated man because maybe they would yeah maybe they wouldn’t be in that starting lineup like that right now yeah i think that’s a big factor man cause think about it you’re gonna have all you got all these positions they they hang out together if if most of those positions aren’t vaccinated that’s going to clean out that’s going to clear out a room because they got because let’s say they they pop positive for covent on friday and they’re all unvaccinated they can’t play on sunday they have to chill they can’t play on sunday titans out here got nine players and a coach you know what i’m saying like that that’s gonna start impacting things and now if teams ain’t ready to suit up they gotta forfeit so you can’t take those type of risks i know how people feel about it but the rules are the rules blame the nflpa for not having a backbone what you want me to do all right dave uh just we’ll move on from perriman but but i agree move on from pyramid and uh let’s let’s talk about this because this is interesting too the staffer situation we knew that though yeah we didn’t know it is kind of old news but it came back up go ahead go ahead and uh and um give us give us your thoughts on it real quick so we can get to the this preseason game so what thank god he didn’t want to come right we would have given up too much for him think about it wouldn’t god jc horner who would have done this no jc horn yeah but then again then we wouldn’t have to hear y’all complaining about well yeah y’all would have y’all complained about fields because they would have been sitting there at eight yeah i definitely would have complained but then i’m gonna say we’re gonna take them anyway on behalf of our dustin phil’s complainers yes we would have complained about stafford if justin fields would have failed at eight and we didn’t take him and we had stafford uh so yes we would have complained would you like to complain better worse than what than the complaint is now like i think we gotta yeah i would have complained worse because or more because he’s aging right he’s aging too and it would have been a fir yeah so i don’t know i don’t know but uh well don’t worry man we definitely dodged that bullet b i don’t know if matt’s vaccinated or not but i know his wife wasn’t there so so that’s that’s a that’s another thing can we are we not allowed to criticize that too no not uh criticized the fact that we were about to sell the house for mass stafford i mean is that is that something we gotta just roll over and accept too since we since we praising everything that that everything that they do is just great and we can’t criticize it uh can we know jc horn no no no dave no jc horn no jc horn but you got matt stafford right so let’s go ahead and praise that that would have been a great move huh wouldn’t it wouldn’t somebody somebody tell me somebody tell me in the chat that would have been a great move please i would have been somebody tell me i would have been pissed oh i would have been pissed i was i was pissed we offered him and then that and and we also heard that he didn’t want to come here around the time when he got traded and that’s why they had to take the deal they got from l.a nah that would have been a terrible move i think i’m happy to get jc man i’m happy for jc i’d rather have jc and and uh and donald over stafford and no jc that’s awesome they want to rehab the dude i get it only time will tell this is a great move and this is actually a move i’m trying to sit back and see what happens oh because if it doesn’t oh come all you all you people that say i complain oh wait to wait to do if this doesn’t pan out fam just just it’s gonna be primetime tv okay if this doesn’t pan out and justin fields is great even even if this pans out if if justin fields is great or if teddy bridgewater takes different to the playoffs that too that’s that’s the second scenario that’s the second scenario if teddy bridgewater goes to the playoffs with the broncos i promise you prime time tv come right back here it’s going to be prime time because i’m going off yeah you know i’m going off you know what the crazy thing is man about that whole situation over in denver a lot of the fan base is not happy that teddy won that job and in my head i’m thinking teddy is exactly the quarterback y’all need with the team y’all have you need somebody that’s not going to turn the ball over because y’all have a good defense y’all got talent on offense that’s all you need at this point you need that like that’s the ultimate i need a game manager type of squad yeah i do got the the list of jericho yes i’m going to call it the list of pnp yeah yeah it’s facts as a matter of fact let me i need to make one for real cause i’m about to start putting people on it for for sure and i’m coming back around 100 don’t let me i want sam john to be successful man i do i’m just telling y’all i’m just telling y’all if this don’t work out bro and other situations happen the way i think they’re gonna happen i’m giving y’all the smoke fam i’m telling y’all right now i’m telling y’all i’m telling y’all right now so again i want sam don to be great i wanted to be great they got a shot i do think they have a shot it’s just gonna it’s tough because of the conference that they’re in afc is tough man they’re tough but they got a shot they got a legitimate shot but their best shot is a wild card and wild card is hard to get in that conference more upside huh i mean there’s nowhere to go what up with this that line right now i i think he’s got nowhere to go but up and i think he does have more he’s younger on rookie did so i get like i said i get it but but it goes back to but it goes back to what it goes back to what i’ve been saying in the past too about the trade and this is why this is why i had a beef big beef about it my big beef about the trade was mainly about the fact that i don’t believe this regime wants sam to sling it like i don’t believe that rashad i don’t believe that i think this regime wants to be more ball control oriented i think they want more of a game manager than a slinger i in my heart or hearts think that so if you truly want that you should have kept who the hell you had but and and that’s why like that’s why my projections for sam is different and all that because i’m like i don’t think you guys understand what this regime is trying to do we out here playing too tight in sets and thinking we’re going to be slanging this [ __ ] like that you know what else i’ve seen i’ve seen a lot of people on twitter talking about oh we should we should run it we’ve got all these good wide receivers we could just spread it out for four wide and and you know put chris but yo you know what 4y takes i don’t know what yes it does you took the words right out of my yes it takes an offensive line you cannot play because you got ahead of time you got to have time for the quarterback for those guys to be open and if you out here get swallowed whole in like one second or less then it ain’t gonna buy you anything the quarterback on this side nobody’s gonna get open yeah so yeah man uh listen i i i’m listen all the best for my man sam i’m i’m rolling 4k was sent 4 000 yards for sam i i want to see him be successful bro don’t put trust me because if sam’s successful this team is successful at the end of the day that’s what’s that’s what it’s all about we want we don’t want to come up here and complain trust me we want to celebrate it’s been a long time since we’ve had the ability to come up here and celebrate some [ __ ] bro like we want to talk we want to talk [ __ ] to people like we want to be able to go on these round tables and talk pure [ __ ] i haven’t had the opportunity to do that at running this podcast period oh yeah 2017 okay we first lose 2017 yeah he was fresh i’m talking so clean since since we’ve been able since we let our nuts drop a little bit dave we ain’t been able to come out here and just talk some pure [ __ ] i want to talk [ __ ] and i have not been have i’ve not had the opportunity to do that so trust me i may complain a lot but i have valid reasons to do so fam i want to be able to talk [ __ ] and and celebrate and we all do we all want the same thing at the end of the day so i want santa to be successful i want everything to work out perfectly every decision that they make i hope it works out so i hope that that’s the case uh i hope that makes you guys happy y’all i’m gonna let you know something right now bro if you think teddy bridgewater turns the ball over wait till you see sam darnold all right so but i am room for sam let me be clear i root for sam but i think i respond that way because you make a comment like that not realizing what sam was and what you’re hoping sam to be and i think folks thinking that what sam was is going to convert to sam the animal and you make the comparison ryan tannehill the loud reality is ryan tannehill was never as bad as what sand arnold was in new york yeah all right so like you can’t make that you can’t make that comparison you could say oh they both had adam gates yeah so adam gates had a ryan tannehill that wasn’t that good and had a sam donald that was abysmal so so ryan tannehill went from not that good to being pretty good and now we’re going to expect the best one to go to pretty good i just want sam to be average this year i think the i think that the top going off is gonna be the second year not the first because there’s still holes that we gotta fix on the line there’s still things that he’s gonna have to deal with with that team i mean sam is going to have the same challenges that teddy had last year from the standpoint of that offensive line and i don’t think you guys realize that and then you guys might realize some of you do realize it but others might realize it then because they don’t want to blame sam and that’s fine you do what you want your opinion but sam’s success is going to be based on the things around him he’s got to have the pieces around him he can’t do it alone sam’s going to inherit he’s going to have a better wide receiver core mccaffrey coming back probably the same offensive line maybe arguably worse i’m going to say worse arguably worse all right and then on top of that he’s going to have a pretty good defense behind him if everything goes what we expect he’s gonna have a much better defense than what teddy had last year so he should be more successful this year off that alone so all right all right all right all right so let’s let’s get into this game dave let’s get into this game uh dave wanted me to share something with y’all uh you want to want to kick it off let’s give let’s give a quick synopsis real quick before we get into this uh so we got week three tomorrow at 7 30 uh going up against uh the pittsburgh steelers uh we talked about a little i think i’ve been talking so many places i was on espn upstate today and i talked about uh how you know we are playing our starters with the exception of christian mccaffrey the steelers are not playing their starters dwayne has i think they’re playing a star offensive line uh but dwayne haskins is going to be the starter for them uh they’re going to rest a lot of their a lot of their main starters are not going to play uh and so it’s gonna be tough to take anything away from this so if our if sam donald goes out there and slings it all right and he goes out there and kills it i’m gonna be like oh so well here’s my thing number two so i want to play the clip of mike tomlin explaining who’s going to play okay fair enough and then we’ll have the discussion on how we should feel about that because there’s a lot of emotions that could go when it comes to this so i want to play the cl i want i want chad to play the clip of what mike tomlin said today or was it yesterday to the press all right yep let me know if you can hear afternoon man we’re really excited about bringing our preseason to a close in carolina and what the game represents in terms of opportunities for guys um that being said you know we won’t play a lot of our regulars uh we’ll move some of those guys out of the way to provide more snaps for others and from what i understand carolina’s going to play their regulars quite a bit and so there’ll be no speculation those guys will get an opportunity to pit their skills and preparedness and and and techniques against varsity and so it’s an exciting opportunity uh we’re going to start dewayne at quarterback uh excited about giving him an opportunity maybe to see some reps against carolina’s first group um it’s another opportunity for our offensive line to gain cohesion many of those guys will play we’re excited about getting benny snell back he’s missed some time due to injury and so he’ll get an opportunity particularly in the early stages of the game to play some running back and and do the things that featured runners do and improve his health and things of that nature we’ll be excited about that on the defensive side we’re excited about maybe giving trey norwood some opportunities to play at nickel he’s focused exclusively at safety for the better part of this uh process but uh he’s been trained and has been learning nickel the whole time he’ll put probably get an opportunity to take some snaps there we’re also excited about uh watching the culmination of the specialist battle my punters have done a great job as has our snappers and uh those guys get an opportunity to put an exclamation point on their efforts um on friday night in carolina so that’s just some of the many highlights uh reasons why we’re working uh we got a normal business day today we’re gonna focus on situational football things and and do the best we can to put them in position to perform uh at their level for them to be successful in terms of playing winning football but also uh putting their skills on display all right all right so here’s the thing man so that was coach mike tomlin he’s entering his 15th year as the head coach of the pittsburgh steelers he’s never had a losing season and he’s not going to play much of his starters and he didn’t have a four pieces in the game either i believe i think he they only played three games if i remember correctly so he’s not gonna he’s not gonna play his starters um so their backups are gonna get opportunity to go against our starters which makes me very afraid if we look if we come out here flat in the first half i don’t anticipate we will but if we do there’s gonna be a different discussion come monday about whether or not this team is ready and on the top and on top of that we’re out here worried about a kicker competition because we out here trying to figure out who our kicker gonna be we still got two losslappers on the roster and we still gotta cut this roster down to 53 by tuesday so i’ve i’ve i’ve expressed my frustration with the fact that they didn’t play sam darnold a lot in the second game and i think and i personally think they them playing them a half in the third piece of the game is a tactical error but once again it ain’t my team so yeah i think i think that they should have played oh this is game four for them okay fair enough they played in the hall of fame game uh but again with them they different they got a little they got a a system that’s been around for a long time they got cohesion uh so i get i get why tomlin is gonna sit his starters it makes complete sense we don’t have that and i felt like i feel like personally we should have judged that before uh we played the ravens right we should have maybe made a call to tomlin and say hey bro are you are you gonna play your starters because you know i need to see what i need to do for this week right if week two i’m talking about against the reagans because i personally like dave said i would have loved to have seen the starters play uh a full half in in uh in game two versus the ravens versus playing now we’re we’re playing our starters a full half against backups well like the one the one positive thing is we’ll at least get to see our defense go up against the fir the offensive line for them correct but we already saw that with the ravens right yeah we know the defense though yeah so i’m not too worried about that but my concern is the offensive side like i want to see a starting defense go up against our starting offense and we’re not going to get to see that which is unfortunate yeah it’s it’s really unfortunate i think that’s a missed opportunity shout out to ron uh missed opportunity for us to go ahead and see what we had in week two man i get it week one you don’t wanna maybe you don’t wanna go out there and play your starters okay i can i can let that slide week two should have been the week we saw because i think most other players they they played most other starters play week two if i’m not mistaken so week two was the week that most everybody played so we should have been playing our starters for at least a half that week instead of this week when we’re playing backups and it’s weird how everybody’s handling too go ahead no no it’s not because everybody else is handling it they’re they’ve been a head coach before and they’ve had a full offseason before true but i going against the grain like this is a risk um and and i think there’s been a lot of defending of how rules doing it and i’m going to tell you man like there’s some things you won’t you can defend against rule i don’t know if you should be defending this one like rule hasn’t really he hasn’t really proved anything at the nfl level if you want to keep it a buck i think he did a pretty good job with the team overall particularly on the defensive side of the ball last year but in the grand scheme of things he hasn’t proved anything from that standpoint to be out here not playing your guys in the first two games of the preseason um and and and and it bothers me it it’s just i want to see us against the other starters and we didn’t get to see that all three games and we’re not going to truly see that until we won against the jazz yeah i was going to say are we going to see that against the jets because uh they banged up too bro so are we really going to but it’s only that’s not fair yeah at this point man the games count right so the games count that’s the reality the fact is the games count they lost some players on defense and that’s fine and that happens injuries are part of the game just like just if you and if you’re worried about injury risk for sam he could enter tomorrow and then what so like you kind of got to let that man get his hits in like this it’s a physical sport but we’ll see yeah so so for me man for this game tomorrow and again it’s not it’s not really a lot to take away given our starters our starting offense is going up against their uh their backups um but what i do want to see if that’s the case excuse me that’s the case i need to see execution right we need to be out there firing on all cylinders we should be scoring we shouldn’t be settling for threes even though i know they want us to settle the kick kicker battle uh we shouldn’t be settling for threes we should be firing on all cylinders i’m not saying we should go out there and dominate per se but we need to be fired on all cylinders winning those gains within a game remember i talked about that last monday if you’re not familiar with what we do here we go over every game on monday at 8 30 every monday we are live at 8 30 and i go over some interesting statistics and we have been awful in red zone we have been awful in third down conversions we’ve been you know bad in time of possession we’ve been bad running the football those are things i need to see win or loss i need to see that improve we’ve been bad just let me be clear we’ve been bad on third down the conversion on both offensively and defensively and both we we can’t we can’t get first downs and we can’t stop them from getting first downs on third down which leads to the loss of the thomas time of possession battle on the opposite side though we have been good at uh you know turning the football over so let’s continue to turn the football over let’s create those turnovers keep winning the turnover battle if you win the turnover battle you’re supposed to put yourself in good position to win the game but obviously if you can’t convert third downs and you can’t get off the field on third down then you’re not going to win that’s why you have to win those games within a within the game there’s many games many games you have to go in and win those mini games within the football game and we’re not doing that which leads to the l uh come uh you know the win or lost time so and consider this ladies and gentlemen the only touchdown we’ve had in pre-season so far was the next one dave that’s awful you have to say it like that i’m just letting you know you ain’t have to say it like that look man shout out to knives and rick ross accident touchdowns tds we weren’t supposed to get i’m just saying man damn [ __ ] i mean look i’m just i look i gotta show you what it looks like because we didn’t score a touchdown last week you saw what happens when i started showed up last week yeah yeah they got stopped at the one and couldn’t get it couldn’t get one yard you want me to repeat what i said then go ahead i’ll say it again i don’t care if it’s pre-season high school football college football middle school football pee wee pop warner i don’t care if you cannot get one yard at the goal line ma manawi mono then that is a problem preseason or not just remember man everybody’s been hyping up how great pj walker’s been and all that other hoopla tried to tell y’all rule yelled at his ass about that damn td pass he yelled about that then he came out there and [ __ ] the bad week too i tried to tell y’all he’s up and down so how do you how do you think it’s going to be with the how do you think it’s going to be with the backups after the starters leave the half i think fam i really think they they’re giving will greer every single opportunity to prove himself i think that i think he’s gonna get the bulk of whatever’s left i think sam donald’s gonna play the full half and whatever is left i really think that will grier is gonna get the bulk of those snaps they’ve been giving this dude every single opportunity oh we oh we didn’t get it they they coddled them they collared on week one oh he didn’t he didn’t have enough snaps he didn’t we we want to see more we need to see what oh no no man no no man in week one they were trying to win the game so they played called as such they collared his ass they caught him week one and then they came out they gave him all the snaps he looked better and i gave him his props for that he looked good in week two he looked good he looked good he looked but at the end of the day still some question marks he wasn’t perfect but he looked much better than he looked we won um but at the end of the day i think they’re gonna give him the most opportunities uh to to uh to win so i’ll just say this about the td pass in week one so what happened was there was some communication issues in the headset and pj heard a different play than what rule wanted to be called and pj ran the play that he heard and and then on top of that the pass was supposed to go to um who was it was supposed to go to my business supposed to go to bayless but luckily it didn’t because bayless stepped out of bounds it came back in so it wouldn’t have been a td anyway but tommy trimble snatched it and tremble got the td and see yeah that that’s perfect explanation and see this is what this was my inclination too uh derek we went over this on monday i said the same thing the optimal time right now is to trade will grier build him up in fact i wouldn’t even play him i’d be like yo go look at week 2 film because he could destroy his he could destroy his value by going up there and [ __ ] in the bed so now just go go out there and look at his week two film man he’s ready will is ready trade him because he he’s on the contract here are you gonna extend will grier do you really think he’s good enough to extend or you just want to draft because you can easily just draft the backup if that’s what we’re going for or like i said go out there and get a veteran qb this is my thing who who do you think who do you think we are you know the patriots out here get getting getting trade value for sony michelle that’s what i mean it’s the right it’s a smart thing to do if you know he’s not if he’s not part of your long-term plans he’s on the contract years are you going to dave dave so are you going to extend will grier answer that question so why so why if he’s not on a roster again i will i will come back to this point i will clip this out and i will say if will grier is not on the roster this year or excuse me next year next season and you didn’t extend them then what the hell is the point oh it was a failed draft pick i don’t care about the draft pick it is it’s that’s been done he’s on the roster you know we could do about that i’m talking about right now at this moment if he’s not if he’s not part of the long-term plan and you’re not going to extend him then what is the point of keeping him on the roster but the thing is neither one of our quarter backups is part of the long-term plan i agree you can argue donald isn’t i mean the man only got one year left on his deal that’s fair that’s fair i mean like none of these quarterbacks in theory ain’t part of a long-term plan because ain’t nobody i don’t think anybody’s signed past 2022. no pj’s on the concert yeah but we got like exclusive rights to pj so pj ain’t going nowhere uh from a contract he he if he becomes a free agent we got the rights to him so he’s not going nowhere um will on the other hand becomes an unrestricted free agent at the end of his deal he can go out there and negotiate at that point we had a chance to trade curtis we decided against it yeah i figure agree i agree cody i agree with you bro i agree you gotta look if he’s not gonna be a part of long-term plan you’ve got to get rid of especially off of what he did last week he trade him at the peak he’s not gonna look any better i promise y’all this right now i promise you right now will grier is not going to look any better than what he looked last week against the colts ever that’s the peak will that’s peak will grip trade them right now i promise y’all said peak that’s pete greer dawg go ahead go ahead about the trubisky joint man this is how far we’ve gone that we’re out here out here saying we should trade for mr b trubisky i think chip chubisky would have been a solid backup he’s got game experience he fits my criteria for a good backup but you know what he’s taking your biscuit you wouldn’t you don’t bring to brissy in here unless he’s starting bro a [ __ ] you got to take what he can get at this point no we don’t i mean i mean he he got picked up i meant i meant not right now not right now i’m talking about before he signed with the bills because he didn’t sign a big deal we had like he got big money well not because he knew because he signed for buffalo knowing that they had a they mitch would be more competitive against donald if you want to keep it a buck you’re going to keep it a buck [ __ ] ain’t nearly as bad as i’m like i’m not going i’m not going to go i’m not quite ready and trubisky gets a bad rap because what the bears did to go up to get him he gets a bad rap for that the deshaun watson yeah but the thing is mitch ain’t m as bad as mit as bad as the chicago experiment happen for mr trubinsky compare the numbers bro you’ll be surprised i have not compared numbers so i can’t speak to that uh but i i’m just saying that trubisky fits my criteria for a backup that’s all i’m saying get somebody with game experience that’s maybe he ain’t the greatest but he can mentor at least tell do what not to do okay he’s been there he’s done that get a dude in here that can can come out particularly take over okay look man mitchell mitchell drubinski at one season he had 24 touchdowns 12 picks man like he ain’t he ain’t he ain’t that bad pretty good completion percentage a better one than the quarterback we currently got that’s all i’m saying yeah i can’t speak to it i don’t know i don’t want to get out here and say yeah no i no i’m not speaking to it i’m i’m not it’s not i’m not no i’m looking at his numbers i have his chart ain’t that bad man that’s all i’m saying you get out of the argument well maybe chicago has put better things around them and that’s fine but you know chicago historically is not good at uh quarterbacking that’s yeah just just hope they don’t do justin fields like that but uh anyway back to the game dave back to this game anything else that we want to discuss in regards to the steelers coming into town we’re going to live streaming tomorrow you’re not going to the game right no i’m not my boy uh patrick just offered me a ticket but i i’d rather watch it at home man cuz you know you knew you know you’re gonna need more fans there because you know typically when the steelers come out oh steelers about to take over fam yeah they about to take over that thing about to be painted painting uh black and gold black and yellow black and yellow yeah so just getting ready for that fans shout out to a melissa too she’s a stealing fan um but uh but yeah man so any predictions any any predictions dave on in regard to what you think we’re going to do uh in the mini games like do you think that we’re going to improve in the red zone do you think we’re going to improve third down efficiency do you think we’re going to win the turnover battle those those kind of things if it doesn’t if it doesn’t improve when the starters are out there we got a problem bro and i’ll just leave it at that like if we we’re going to play our starters for a full half we might get like a dose of starters from the steelers like particularly maybe on the defensive side we might get a small dose of starters in the first half maybe for a series so it will be inexcusable if we can’t execute with their backs ups we’ll be having a different discussion if our offensive line is getting swallowed hold by the studio’s backups and you can say well to stealers bro it’s their backups just even thomas said they’re going the backups are going to go against varsity pretty much you know what i’m saying so from that standpoint we i the numbers should be up we probably should do a split between halves for the mark for monday only because i’m not like i’m more concerned about how we play against these backups because then at that point we can start going back to that discussion when y’all keep saying that preseason don’t matter and i know it’s vanilla plays but dude all these other teams are able to confirm a third down better than us we’re probably one of the worst in the league i don’t have that data down but basically them numbers it’ll be hard for me to convince otherwise that we’re not going to worsen the league right now in preseason when it comes to third conversions getting off the field in red zone yeah i don’t have the numbers either real quick let me let me address this because he’s i don’t he doesn’t have a name but he is right he is right i did miss speak uh will grier is not on the contract gear he becomes an undrafted free agent excuse me unrestricted free agent in 2023. so that does change things a little bit right will great ain’t going nowhere that’s what it changes he ain’t going nowhere pj walker’s on cut alert that’s what that’s what that tells me so he’s right he is right thank you for correcting me bro but yeah i mean i i just want to see how they do i think i like i haven’t everybody’s been been trying to tell me not to hit the panic button to quit being negative but let me tell you something guys if we don’t look good against the steelers backups i mean if that doesn’t create a cause of concern i don’t know nothing will and this is how i feel about it ah oh yeah i’ll answer this one oh yeah yeah i i sure you know he called us varsity b they called him he called us varsity that was no floridian slip uh he called his boss no but but in his defense he called us varsity based on the fact that the second string in the third string now he called us varsity because of running a program over here dave and program is college so varsity [Laughter] i see you with the subliminals tyler with the subs tommy with the subs yeah tom with thomas up this man but shout out to mike tomlin member of kappa alpha fraternity corporate shout out to cap is in the building um but yeah man yeah oh my god it’s it’s gonna be fun uh listen what’s up uh so let me let me tell y’all um let’s any any steelers fans in the in the building and he still has fans in the building hey y’all still as fans let me know what we need to look out for tomorrow from the stella side of things i got an article up right here that says uh it’s dewayne’s world so dwayne haskins getting the start um and you know he’s been putting some pressure on mason rudolph and josh dobbs uh so um what y’all thinking man what y’all thinking about uh the way i’m happy that hashtag is getting another opportunity but i don’t think hassan’s gonna do much against our defense i’m gonna be honest with you and then benny snell’s coming back so it’ll be interesting to see but snell’s not gonna be starting that’s gonna be nazi uh what would i what i’d like to see tomorrow make me feel really good i mean i want darling to be efficient as hell i don’t want to see no mistakes tomorrow i don’t want to see donald throw a pick i want to see our offensive line be able to hold up backup lineman like i want to see what i expect to see tomorrow you know what i’m saying like that’s what i want to see tomorrow yeah for for me just in order for me to feel really good uh i want to see sam slang it i want to see him throw the football down the field i want to see him push it i want to see him all the things that y’all told me he was great at good throws good ball placement no turnovers for sam specific that’s what i want to see from sam i think uh i i’m excited to see him i thought he looked comfortable back there in one one series he played he looked comfortable he looked good he scanned the field going through his progressions looked all right uh so i’m looking forward to him to build on that i want to see this another thing that’s going to make me feel really good is to see this uh yards per run increase like we need to run the football i need to see this run game look better because without that that’s going to put a lot of pressure on sam donahue i know i know christian ain’t playing uh but you know i don’t think let me not say that cause y’all gonna y’all gonna y’all gonna flame me if i if i say what i really wanna say no no no no no we doing that here now we ain’t doing that hey you say what you need to say you already been shot all right so i’m gonna go ahead and keep the hill shot in so i don’t think as great as christian mccaffrey y’all say great as great as christian mccaffrey is the job as y’all think he is right running between the tackles i don’t think he’s he’s gonna improve that much more than what we see from chuba hubbard if that makes sense like the yards he’s not going to go in and bust he might bust a long one every now and then pause he might go out there and break one off but between the tackles just like trouble hubbard chew bubba broke one off too now between the tackles he needs help so i’m looking for his offensive line to help both of our runners and so what i’m saying is that i want to see improved from tuba side because i think you will see equal uh equal effort from christian mccaffrey i hope that makes sense i didn’t realize they do pre-season draft kings i’ve been hustling backwards that’s the case yeah two was probably gonna if they do do that chuba would be a pretty good start because in theory man he should be able to ball like panthers should all like if they play preseason or draft games i don’t really look until it gets close to the regular season if they play pre-season draftkings two was a no-brainer because he’s probably cheap too and he’s going to get a lot of work you all paid see them see too much money you ain’t gonna disagree me for their buddy agreed i agree so i mean just keeping it a buck i mean that’s a blanket statement for all for most like 99 of the running backs out there i mean with the exception of maybe a derrick henry like a lot of these cats ain’t out here creating their own lanes like that uh you gotta have offensive line to block and we haven’t seen that over the first couple games that’s my overarching point is that i need to see the offensive line create some lanes for our running back so they can get loose that’s my point that’s my my overarching point um outside of that man um i’m no i think what we really need to be focused on dave i think the the the the most important takeaway from this this preseason game is we need to find out who our star kicker is i mean that’s really the bottom line that’s really the bottom that’s what nothing else matters nothing else matters at this point it’s not the long snapper bro no and the long we got that too long the special team the long snapper we got to find out who that who that start is because you know we did spend a six round pick on a long snapper so we definitely got to know who’s gonna and you saw that in in practice he was he had a bad snap in practice the other day oh fletcher yep mm-hmm dude if they cut fletcher man flames dawg i’m afraid yo we flaming we flaming we flaming out here dawg we could have had trey smith i defended that pick just to be clear i’m tr so when you guys be out here talking about tha
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