Scenes at Kabul airport are ‘just horrific’ and ‘should have been avoided’

Scenes at Kabul airport are ‘just horrific’ and ‘should have been avoided’

they are horrific scenes aren’t they in kabul at the moment it’s absolutely terrifying tim it’s you just cannot imagine it and i think that description of of how people are trying to get to the airport and what’s facing them when they get there imagine fleeing the taliban getting to the airport and near a taliban gunman right there and beating you back with sticks i mean it is just horrific it’s a horrific scene at the moment we’ve got a full interview with former prime minister john howard coming up on sunday agenda with kieran gilbert our chief anchor and in there mr howard has been critical of the way the u.s particularly has handled it by not leaving an army they’re virtually just up and leaving and seeing what’s happened what are your thoughts well i think the whole thing is being chaotic i think it’s it’s an absolute nightmare for the afghan population on the ground we have seen this coming for months australian veterans have been seeing this coming for months they’ve been screaming at our government to get people out the interpreters that saved their lives when they were there so this could have been planned much better it should have been planned much better and we should have been getting people out far earlier than this the chaos that we’re seeing at the moment really should have been avoided and it’s you know i i feel for everybody now who is either trying to get out or who is frantically working around the clock to get people out this should never have happened we’re seeing rhetoric from the taliban saying that no we’ve changed this is the way we’re going to operate in the future but there’s no there’s no grounds to believe any of that is there when we look at the past well i think you only have to look at what’s happened more recently amnesty international released a report uh just yesterday highlighting the massacre of nine hazara men in in july who were brutally tortured to death you know we have the evidence of how they were killed we know exactly how this organization operates we know their views on lgbtqi on women on anybody who’s a minority group you know so i think you know the future for afghanistan is incredibly bleak and that’s why we need governments like australia to now step up and do more to rescue those who are at immediate risk it certainly puts the covert restrictions and battles in australia in perspective when you look at these pictures overseas what can we do as a nation as a very wealthy successful western country what can australia do well i think the first thing we need to do is what we’re doing get people out as quickly as we can work with our allies to get those people out there needs to be better coordination on the ground to get people to the airport that’s where the real problem is at the moment but beyond that we need to be upping our humanitarian program we need to be offering at least 20 000 places additional to our current program this is what canada has done this is what the uk has done the us is stepping up its efforts we need to at least be matching our allies to show that we have a commitment to the afghans going forward we have afghans here at the moment who are desperate to reunite with their family we need to be able to process those family reunion applications quickly and those tell are those um afghans and others who have fled the taliban who are here and who don’t have permanent status they should be granted permanent status they should be able to know that they are safe so then they can bring their family to safety just look at these are little things that we can do and we can do very quickly yeah little but so effective and and can help so many people in the process it’s really just we move away from afghanistan just for a moment and look more broadly across the rest of the world how important is it as part of our education particularly for young people and those that haven’t traveled or or know anything about the outside world to understand what goes on beyond our nation because it is a little bit of a paradise here um and there’s so much around the world where people are suffering well i think you know it’s crucial travel is crucial understanding of the world we live in is absolutely crucial and i think you know we have crisis in our region we still have the rohingya and others fleeing the situation in myanmar and we still need to be working out what we’re going to do with that crisis here in our region but we do you know have the situation in the middle east it’s a very diverse part of the world and we should get more people seeing it you know i think we’re all looking forward to to when restrictions ease and we can start traveling again australians are actually great travelers and i think you know there’s an amazing world out there but we need to understand why people have to flee how they flee how they get to safety and then the things that the australian government can do to support countries that are really looking after the majority of people you know we could potentially have another million people flee out of afghanistan into pakistan into iran into tajikistan and we need to be able to commit to those countries that we haven’t forgotten them and show some solidarity with them but these are parts of the world that not many australians probably get to and you know hopefully one day we will be able to get back and and see all all those different parts of the region in the world and and get an understanding really of how lucky we are yeah well said dr graham tom we’ll leave it there we could talk uh for a long long time on this issue because it’s a it’s a broad broad subject but uh we need to keep our voices heard and a great message this morning thanks for talking to us pleasure thanks for having me on
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Scenes at Kabul airport are ‘just horrific’ and \'should have been avoided\'

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