Trump’s plan for Afghanistan would not have ended like this: Gen. Kellog

Trump’s plan for Afghanistan would not have ended like this: Gen. Kellog

>> THANK YOU, HARRIS. >> Harris: FOR MORE ON THIS I WANT TO BRING IN GENERAL KEITH KELLOGG. FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR TO PRESIDENT TRUMP AND VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. I WISH THIS WAS UNDER DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES BUT I WILL LEAN ON YOUR EXPERTISE. AS YOU LISTENED TO THE PENTAGON BRIEFING JUST NOW WHAT REALLY POPPED IN YOUR MIND THAT IS A VERY URGENT MATTER ABOVE ALL? >> FIRST HARRIS, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND RIGHT UP FRONT THE PLAN THAT WE WORKED ON FOR FOUR YEARS IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHEN I WAS THERE WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP SURE DID NOT HAVE THE ENDING THIS ONE DOES. WE HAD A PLAN AND IT WAS AN EXECUTEABLE PLAN AND I FELT VERY COMFORTABLE ABOUT IT. HERE IS WHAT I WAS WATCHING AND LISTENING WITH THE PENTAGON PRESS BRIEFING. THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT TACTICAL ISSUES. EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO CHEW GUM AND WALK AT THE SAME TIME. THE FACT IS THEY’RE TALKING GATES BEING OPEN AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT ABOUT A FIELD HOSPITAL. PEOPLE NEED TO SIT BACK AND DO — LEAD THE COMMANDERS IN THE FIELD TO HANDLE THAT. WHAT’S CONCERNING TO ME IS A COMPLETE LACK OF BOTH OPERATIONAL AND STRATEGIC PLANNING GOING FORWARD. IT IS ALMOST LIKE WE DON’T KNOW WHAT WE’RE DOING EXCEPT ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. WE’RE LIVING IN THIS ON A DAY-TO-DAY. WHEN THEY GET PRESSED WE DON’T KNOW WHAT WE’RE GOING TO DO. WE DON’T KNOW WHAT WE’RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE AMERICAN CITIZENS. THAT’S THE LARGEST CONCERN I’VE GOT. AT A NATIONAL SECURITY LEVEL YOU HAVE TO DEPEND ON THE TACTICAL COMMANDERS TO GET THOSE DONE. WHAT GUIDANCE ARE THEY BEING GIVEN? I DON’T THINK THEY’RE GETTING ANY. >> Harris: WOULD THAT COME FROM THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF. >> YES. HE NEEDS TO BE GIVING THAT THROUGH THE CHAIRMEN OF THE JOINT CHEFS AND SECRETARY OF DEFENSE. I DON’T THINK HE HAS GIVEN IT. THE REASON IS, I DON’T THINK HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING AND WHAT’S HAPPENING THERE. I THINK THEY’RE ALMOST PARALYZED BY IT. I WAS WATCHING YESTERDAY SECRETARY AUSTIN. THE COMMANDER FOR ME YEARS AGO AND MARK MILLEY THE CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT CHIEFS. IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS IT LOOKED LIKE DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS. THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY’RE DOING. IT’S LIKE DAY-TO-DAY AND NOT STEPPING BACK AND SAYING OUR JOB IS TO PROVIDE THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF, THE PRESIDENT AND HIS ENTIRE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL STRATEGIC AND OPERATIONAL GUIDANCE GOING FOFRMENTD I DON’T THINK THEY’RE DOING IT. I DON’T SEE IT. >> Harris: YOU CALL THIS INTELLECTUAL AGILITY. DOES BIDEN HAVE IT? WHAT YOU CALL INTELLECTUAL AGILITY YOU NEED ON THE BATTLEFIELD IN WARTIME. YOU CAN’T FIGHT THE CURRENT BATTLE BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING WITH THE ENEMY. >> THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON THE CURRENT FIGHT GOING ON BUT AT THE SAME TIME SAY WHAT IS TOMORROW GOING TO BRING AND THE NEXT DAY >> Harris: BIDEN DOESN’T VIT. >> IT DOESN’T. HONESTLY, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE I HATE TO SAY IT. SECRETARY GATES HAD IT RIGHT WHEN HE SAID JOE BIDEN HAS BEEN WRONG ON NEARLY EVERY NATIONAL SECURITY DECISION IN THE LAST FOUR DECADES. REMEMBER, YOU HAD PRESIDENT OBAMA MAKE A COMMENT DON’T UNDERESTIMATE JOE BIDEN’S ABILITY TO SCREW SOMETHING UP. WE’RE SEEING THAT VERY, VERY CLEARLY. THAT’S NOT ME TALKING. THAT’S MEMBERS OF THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION. I THINK IF PEOPLE SIT BACK YOU GO OH BOY, WE’RE IN FOR A LONG HAUL. I DON’T SEE STRATEGIC COMPETENCE GOING FORWARD. >> Harris: I DON’T KNOW IF YOU CAUGHT WHEN SENATOR COTTON SAID MOMENTS AGO. IT HAS BEEN COMPARED TO SAIGON 1975 BUT AFTER WATCHING THAT PENTAGON BRIEFING HE SAID I’M THINKING MORE ABOUT TEHRAN IN 1979. HE IS CONCERNED NOW IF THE PENTAGON, THE STATE DEPARTMENT, OTHER PEOPLE DON’T HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON WHO WE HAVE ON THE GROUND, IT IS VERY EASY TO LEAVE SOMEBODY BEHIND AND THE TALIBAN WILL NOT MISS THAT OPPORTUNITY JUST LIKE THEY DID IN TEHRAN IN 1979 TO HOLD HOSTAGES. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? >> IT WAS A GREAT COMMENT. THIS IS A LEADERSHIP ISSUE. THIS IS WHERE YOU SAY TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. TRUMP WOULD HAVE DONE IT. I HEARD HIM IN VERY UNDIPLOMATIC TERMS WHEN HE TALKED TO THE CHIEF NEGOTIATOR FOR THE TALIBAN DURING THIS PROCESS. THIS IS ONE OF THESE YOU KNOW SOMETHING? WE’RE GOING TO PUT THE FULL WEIGHT OF THE AMERICAN MILITARY ON YOU AND GET OUR PEOPLE OUT. IF IT TAKES US UNTIL CHRISTMAS OF 2028 WE ARE GOING TO DO IT. IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT, STAND IN OUR WAY AND HE HAS TO TELL THEM THAT. LOOK, WE’LL PUT — WHEN I SAY THE FULL FORCE OF THE AMERICAN MILITARY, I DON’T CARE IF IT TAKES TWO COURSE OF U.S. ARMY TROOPS WE’LL GET EVERY AMERICAN. I DON’T CARE WHAT IT TAKES. I WOULD TELL THEM WE’RE GETTING OUR PEOPLE OUT IF IT TAKES ANOTHER SQUAD, ANOTHER DIVISION, ANOTHER ARMY CORP WITH MARINE REINFORCEMENT AND AIR SUPPORT WE’LL ACCOUNT FOR EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN HERE AND I DON’T CARE HOW LONG IT TAKES. AND HE NEEDS TO TELL THE TALIBAN THAT AND HE NEEDS TO TELL OUR COMMANDERS THAT AND HE NEEDS TO TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT. I DON’T THINK HE HAS DONE IT. >> Harris: GENERAL KELLOGG, I ALSO HAD CONGRESSMAN MARK GREEN ON YESTERDAY WHO SERVED IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN. HE SAID LOOK, WE’VE TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY CLOSED BAGRAM AIRPORT. HE SAID BUT THE BIGGER ISSUE IS WHY DON’T THEY REOPEN? WHY DON’T WE GO GET SOME AIR FIELDS WHERE IT IS NOT ALL EVERYBODY BEING FUNNELED THROUGH WHAT SOME HAVE CALLED — WE HAD A GUEST ON “AMERICA’S NEWSROOM” ON FOX NEWS ABOUT AN HOUR AGO WHO SAID THEY’VE CREATED A KILL ZONE. LET’S WATCH THIS AND I’LL GET YOUR RESPONSE. >> WE’VE CREATED IN THE MILITARY TERMS A KILL ZONE. WE EN HABLD THE TALIBAN COME IN AND TARGETING THEIR INTERPRETERS THROUGH A SINGLE CHECKPOINT AND VIOLATING MAJOR MILITARY FUNDAMENTALS BY WHAT WE JUST DID. >> YEAH. >> Harris: YOUR REACTION. >> FIRST OF ALL YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT BAGRAM AIR BASE. NO IDEA WHY WE GAVE IT UP. WE SHOULD HAVE OPENED IT. THIS IS WHERE I WOULD SAY EXPAND YOUR PERIMETER. THEY ARE NOT DOING IT. THEY SAY THEY DON’T HAVE THE AUTHORITY IF YOU LISTEN TO THE PENTAGON SPOKESMAN. YOU PUSH AND YOU PUT ENOUGH TROOPS ON THE GROUND TO DO IT AND PUSH IT OUT THERE. A MILE, TWO MILES, OR 100 MILES. YOU PUSH YOUR PERIMETER OUT TO INSURE YOU HAVE A SAFE ZONE FOR THE AMERICANS TO BE EXTRACTED AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE EXTRACTED AS WELL. BAGRAM WOULD BE GREAT AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE THE HARD DECISIONS. WHAT I’M HEARING THEY AREN’T MAKING THOSE DECISIONS AND I DON’T KNOW IF THEY’RE CAPABLE OF MAKING THEM. >> Harris: BEFORE I LET YOU GO. AND I DON’T WANT TO DRAG YOU INTO POLITICS. I DON’T KNOW HOW WE CAN WALK AROUND A MINEFIELD WITHOUT HAVING TO TAKE SOME CALCULATION ABOUT HOW EVERYTHING ON THAT MINEFIELD LOOKS. ONE OF THE THINGS IS POLITICS. HOW BAD WOULD IT LOOK FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN TO ACTUALLY PUT 25,000 OR 40,000 TROOPS BACK INTO AFGHANISTAN IF THAT’S WHAT IT TAKES? IS THAT THE GAME OF POLITICS THAT HAS US WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT HE EVEN MEANT IT WHEN HE SAID WE’D GET OUT BY AUGUST 31st OR MAYBE STAY? WE DON’T KNOW WHAT HE WILL DO BUT IT WILL TAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE. >> YEAH, HARRIS, THIS ISN’T POLITICS. THIS IS A GAME OF BEING AN AMERICAN. YOU DON’T MESS AROUND WITH THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WE ARE GOING TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS. I DON’T CARE IF IT’S ONE OR 100. AND WHATEVER IT TAKES, HE NEEDS TO DO THAT. THAT’S HIS JOB. HE HAS GOT TO DO THAT. I DON’T CARE WHAT IT TAKES. I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD SAY THAT’S THE KIND OF LEADER WE WANT. WE WANT THE GUY WHO IS A TOUGH GUY AND WE’LL MAKE SURE IF I GO ANYWHERE AS AN AMERICAN THAT THE AMERICAN MILITARY AND GOVERNMENT WILL COME AFTER ME IF I GET IN TROUBLE. THAT SIMPLE. >> Harris: GENERAL KEITH KELLOGG. A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU IN FOCUS TODAY AS WE NAVIGATE THROUGH WHAT WE JUST LEARNED FROM THE PENTAGON WHICH WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION. NOT SURE HOW MUCH OF IT WILL HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW THEY WILL BRING HOME AMERICANS BUT
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