Violent protests against new lockdowns in Australia

Violent protests against new lockdowns in Australia

. THEY’RE ALREADY MORE THAN 130 CASES AMONG PARALYMPIC ATHLETES. AND IN AUSTRALIA, NEW SOUTH WALES, JUST REPORTED IN ANOTHER 800 NEW CASES, A SLIGHT DROP FROM SUNDAY’S RECORD DAILY HIGH. MEANTIME, THE PRIME MINISTER SAYS STRICT COVID MEASURES WILL COME TO AN END ONCE THE VACCINATION RATE HITS 70%. IT COMES AFTER POLICE ARRESTED HUNDREDS OF ANTI LOCKDOWN PROTESTERS OVER THE WEEKEND. ANGUS WATSON IS IN SYDNEY. ANGUS HIGH, WHAT’S THE SITUATION RIGHT NOW? CERTAINLY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PRETTY ANGRY ABOUT THE WAY THEY’RE GOVERNMENT HAS DEALT WITH THIS, AND IT’S BEEN VERY MUCH FELT IN THE STREETS. >> ABSOLUTELY ROBIN, THE SCENES OVER THE WEEKEND IN WHICH VIOLENT PROTESTERS TURNED OUT ACROSS AUSTRALIA’S MAJOR CITIES OF SYDNEY AND MELBOURNE ARE NOT WHAT MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WANTED TO SEE AND ABSOLUTELY NOT POLITICIANS WANTED TO SEE, THE POLITICIANS THAT HAVE BEEN TELLING THEIR CITIZENS TO STAY AT HOME ACROSS MAJOR CITIES IN SYDNEY AND THE CAPITOL CAMERA AND MELBOURNE, AND MELBOURNE PARTICULARLY VIOLENT SCENE SATURDAY. THAT’S JUST THE BEGINNING OF SCOTT MORRISON’S TROUBLES. THE PRIME MINISTER OF AUSTRALIA. HE WAS LAUDED FOR HIS SUCCESS IN 2020 WITH KEEPING THE VIRUS AT BAY WITH STRICT LOCKDOWNS AND STRICT BORDER MEASURES, KEEPING THE VIRUS OUT. THE DELTA HAS CHANGED THE GAME FOR HIM MEANING THAT CASE NUMBERS MAY BE OUT OF CONTROL. THEY MAY NOT BE GETTING DOWN TO LOW NUMBERS THAT WE SAW EARLY THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR. ROBIN, INSTEAD HE WANTS THE FOCUS TO SHIFT TO HOSPITALIZATIONS AND DEATHS. BUT THE PROBLEM IS OF COURSE THAT AUSTRALIA’S VACCINATION RATES ARE TOO SLOW. JUST OVER 20% OF THE POPULATION HERE IN AUSTRALIA HAS BEEN VACCINATED. SCOTT MORRISON WAS TO BECOME LOCKDOWNS TO BECOME — UNTIL 70 TO 80% OF ADULTS HERE IN AUSTRALIA ARE FULLY VACCINATED ROBIN? >> AND TO NEW ZEALAND, A NATIONWIDE LOCKDOWN UNTIL TUESDAY I UNDERSTAND. HOW LIKELY IS THAT THEY WILL BE RELEASED FROM THAT? >> ROBIN, JUST MOMENTS AGO THE PRIME MINISTER OF NEW ZEALAND AS STOOD UP IN WELLINGTON AND SAID THAT THE LOCKDOWN WILL CONTINUE UNTIL AT LEAST FRIDAY. NEW ZEALAND HAS OVER 100 ACTIVE CASES OF COVID-19 IN THE COMMUNITY AT THE MOMENT. THEY WERE WILLING TO GO INTO LOCKDOWN WITH JUST ONE CASE LAST WEEK SO THAT LOCKDOWN COULD BE EXTENDED EVEN FURTHER FROM FRIDAY IF NEW ZEALAND CAN’T GET THOSE NUMBERS OUT OF CONTROL. AND THE COVID-19 MINISTER IN CHARGE, CHRIS HIGGINS SAID THAT THE DELTA VARIANT AS CHANGED THE GAME IN NEW ZEALAND AS WELL AS IT HAS IN AUSTRALIA. NEW ZEALAND THE COUNTRY THAT HAS DONE PARTICULARLY WELL AND KEEPING THE VIRUS OUT. JUST 26 PEOPLE HAVE DIED IN NEW ZEALAND THROUGH THE ENTIRE PANDEMIC. DELTA IS CHANGING THE GAME, NEW ZEALAND WANTS TO KEEP ITS BORDERS CLOSED UNTIL THE END OF THE BORDER TO GIVE ITS PEOPLE A CHANCE TO GET VACCINATED. ROBIN WILL SEE WITH SUCCESS THEY HAVE IN THE COMING WEEKS. >> ANGUS WATSON, THANKS FOR THAT, LIVE IN SYDNEY. WELL LET’S STICK IN AUSTRALIA. LIKE TO BRING IN AN INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALIST, AND ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR AT THE AUSTRALIAN NATIONAL UNIVERSITY MEDICAL SCHOOL. DOCTOR HIGH, LOVELY TO SEE A. YOU’RE JOINING ME FROM CANBERRA. IS THE PRIME MINISTER ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE RESTRICTIONS IN AUSTRALIA ARE PERHAPS OVERKILL, TOO TOUGH NOT EFFECTIVE? >> I DON’T KNOW ABOUT THAT ROBIN. WE CERTAINLY ARE TRYING TO FIND THAT FINE BALANCE, WITH TRYING TO GET LIFE TO MOVE ON NORMALLY WITHOUT ALL THE ECONOMIC AND PSYCHOLOGICAL AND MEDICAL HARDSHIPS WE HAVE SEEN WITH COVID, BUT ALSO BALANCING THAT BY MAKING SURE THAT THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM DOESN’T GET OVERWHELMED. SO A LOT OF THE COUNTRY IS IN LOCKDOWN AT THE MOMENT, IN FACT WHERE I AM IN CANBERRA IS IN LOCKDOWN. >> MANY AUSTRALIANS SEEM TO THINK THAT THESE LOCKDOWNS ARE NEVER ENDING. HAS THE AUSTRALIAN LEADERSHIP DO YOU THINK BEING BEATEN BY THIS VIRUS AND TRYING TO RETREAT INTO AN ISLAND NATION MENTALITY, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME NOT TRYING TO DEAL WITH IT WHEN DELTA SHOWED UP. HOW MUCH IS DELTA CHANGED THE CONVERSATION FOR AUSTRALIANS? >> ROBIN, DELTA HAS BEEN THE GAME-CHANGER. WE HAD THE ALPHA VARIANT IN THE COUNTRY AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, AND THE START OF THIS YEAR, AND WE HAD A NUMBER OF INCURSIONS INTO THE COMMUNITY IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. WE WERE ALL VERY WORRIED BECAUSE WE KNEW HE WAS MORE INFECTIOUS THAN THE ORIGINAL WUHAN STRAIN, BUT NONETHELESS WE WERE ABLE TO GET ON TOP OF IT, BUT DELTA IS DIFFERENT. IT IS FAR MORE INFECTIOUS AND ONCE IT GETS A FOOTHOLD IN A COMMUNITY, IT IS SPREADING LIKE WILDFIRE. EVEN THE VACCINATION RATES IN AUSTRALIA HAS JUST ACCELERATED IN RESPONSE TO SEEING WITH DELTA CAN DO. >> WHY IS THE VACCINATION RATE SO LOW? AGAIN, IS THIS ANOTHER FAILURE BY THE GOVERNMENT? >> SO AGAIN, VERY INTERESTING LEE ROBIN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE — IT SEEMS TO BE A TALE OF ALMOST 2 HALVES. IF YOU LOOK AT COUNTRIES THAT CONTROLLED COVID REALLY WELL THROUGH LAST YEAR, TAIWAN, NEW ZEALAND, AUSTRALIA, SOUTH KOREA, AND YOU LOOK NOW, THEY’VE GOT RELATIVELY SLOW VACCINE ROLLOUTS. THAT’S CONTRAST TO COUNTRIES THAT REALLY STRUGGLED WITH COVID, LIKE THE U.S., AND UK WHO’VE DONE VERY WELL WITH THEIR VACCINE. I THINK YOU CAN SEE IN AUSTRALIA BY THE SURGE IN VACCINATION IN RESPONSE TO THE LOCKDOWN AND THE DELTA OUTBREAKS THAT SEEING WHAT DELTA CAN DO, WHATEVER PART OF THE WORLD YOU ARE IN WILL EXCEL OR 8 THE VACCINE ROLLOUT. THAT’S WHAT’S HAPPENING HERE. >> FOR MANY AUSTRALIANS, HAVING THIS NUMBER OF 70% TO 80% VACCINATED, IT’S KIND OF GOING TO BE A MOVING TARGET ISN’T IT? PARTICULARLY IF BOOSTERS COME INTO PLAY, BECAUSE YOU’RE NEVER REALLY GONNA GET ON TOP BY HITTING A 70% BECAUSE YOU’RE HAVING TO PLAY WITH CATCH UP WITH WHOEVER GETS VACCINATED AND NEEDS A BOOSTER IN 8 MONTHS, PARTICULARLY THE FACT THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE, 20% PERHAPS OF THE POPULATION AND CERTAIN TEENAGERS REALLY MAKE UP THAT DENT INTO 70%. SO THE NUMBERS WILL NEVER REALLY ADD UP, AND THAT MEANS FOR MANY AUSTRALIANS IT’S ENDLESS? >> I THINK NOT JUST FOR AUSTRALIANS, I THINK AROUND THE WORLD, VACCINATION IS WONDERFUL, IT’S AMAZING THAT WE HAVE IT — >> BUT FOR AUSTRALIANS PUTTING A 70% FINITE NUMBER ON THIS, YOU’LL NEVER BE ABLE TO GET THE PIN IT DOWN BECAUSE THE VACCINATIONS WANE IN EFFICACY, SO YOU’LL NEVER BE A LOVE A FINITE, OKAY EVERYBODY’S 70% VACCINATED, BECAUSE YOU’RE GONNA NEED BOOSTERS FOR PEOPLE WHO GOT VACCINATED’S 8 MONTHS AGO? >> YOU’RE QUITE RIGHT, THAT’S WHAT I WAS SAYING, IT’S WONDERFUL AS WONDERFUL AS THE VACCINES ARE, AND DELTA BEING SO INFECTIOUS, WE’RE NEVER GOING TO ACHIEVE HERD IMMUNITY. SO WE’RE GONNA TRY TO VACCINATE AS MUCH OF THE POPULATION AS MUCH AS WE CAN, CATCHING UP WITH BOOSTER DOSES AND WORKING AROUND THAT. ALL OF THOSE COVID SAFE MEASURES WE’VE BEEN SEEING AROUND THE WORLD, SOCIAL DISTANCING, WEARING MASKS, THOSE THINGS ARE HERE TO STAY, SO WON’T BE A COMPLETELY NORMAL LIFE OR ODDS QUITE A WHILE ROBIN. >> AND FOR MANY AUSTRALIANS SPEAK TO YOU, HOW ANGRY ARE THE? WE’VE SEEN THEM ON THE WEEKEND OVER THE STREETS. BUT IN TERMS OF ORDINARY PEOPLE WHO ARE LOCKED IN THEIR HOUSES AND POLICE ARE CHASING THEM ON THE BEACH, THERE’S BEEN A PRETTY TOUGH LOCKDOWN IN TERMS OF CONSEQUENCES. THE MENTAL HEALTH AND THE BROADER IMPLICATIONS FOR SOCIETY. AND NOT BEING ABLE TO LEAVE. A STRING IS NOT BEING ABLE TO GET IN. HOW DAMAGING IS THIS? WELL OF COURSE THERE ARE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES. YOU DO SEE THIS MANIFESTING A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE UNDERSTANDING AND COMPLIANT, BUT THE PROBLEM IS BECAUSE DELTA IS SO INFECTIOUS ANY NONCOMPLIANCE IS SO UNFORGIVING, BUT YOU ARE RIGHT ROBIN I, THINK WE WILL ALL BREATHE A SIGH OF RELIEF WHEN WE COME OUT OF THIS LOCKDOWN, BUT IT’S NOT GONNA BE HERD IMMUNITY, IT’S GONNA BE A COMBINATION OF GETTING H
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Violent protests against new lockdowns in Australia

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