WAS AUSTRALIA THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR THE RUGBY CHAMPIONSHIP? | Rugby News Live | Forever Rugby

WAS AUSTRALIA THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR THE RUGBY CHAMPIONSHIP? | Rugby News Live | Forever Rugby

[Music] do [Music] hello everybody and welcome to forever rugby on forever sports for today’s live first live show since what’s saturday actually since the first half show i’ve done since about i think third is the last week actually but we are live for the rugby news live show which we try and do throughout the sort of usual um basically trying to do this on weekdays and we try to sort of in between the live watch alongs and all the new stuff like that it’s just nice to be able to join during the week be able to have these sort of shows we can just talk about what news is circulating what’s happening in around the rugby world and just chat really you know just talk about you know what’s going on what are the latest stories what do we think and um just sort of try and get everybody else’s views on on exactly what’s going on in the rugby world we’ve got quite a lot to talk about tonight because we have so much to sort of catch up on we haven’t been live for quite a few days and so we’re going to be basically sort of just catching up over the last couple of days talking about the rugby championship talking about the uh queensland restrictions that are currently i’m happening at the moment we’re going to be talking about ian foster signing a new contract we’re going to be talking about the sigma lines coaching setup the fact that they’re going through a current restructuring system you’re going to be talking about courtney talking about chez and colby i’m talking about stephen hans talking about craving week as well as the bright rock players choice awards so so so much to come over in the next sort of half an hour after about 45 minutes depending on on sort of how we how we go but um before we do sort of really get into it and really sort of talk about exactly what’s happening in and around the world please do smash like on the video and subscribe to the channel we are today we went past 6 400 subscribers which is quite cool and um before you sort of before i go to the 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over the weekend yeah so that’s why i haven’t seen you guys in a couple of days so i took the weekend off at um had to celebrate the young young 25 year sort of milestone you know halfway to 50. feeling a little bit old but it was it was a fantastic weekend actually so um yeah thanks for asking i had a really good night on saturday night where we we we bought a keg and got through a lot of beer sunday it was with the family which was chilled and so it was a very nice weekend nice to get away but i missed you guys i missed you guys on the on the wash long on saturday it was good to see that you guys really did support the kanye and you guys had a fantastic watch along there and then but so much is currently happening we’ve got so much talk about in terms of the sort of rugby world and i’ve actually had a really good week i’ve had a very good week and as much as you know the rugby championship was a little bit everywhere the sigma lines out of the curry cup and all this sort of happening about quite a good week actually i got vaccinated on monday while first first sort of dose on monday which was quite cool i was after dinner tonight earlier which is quite cool it’s wednesday so we’re already halfway to the weekend no no wednesday rugby which is a bit strange uh usually we’ll be sort of just finishing a live watch along whatever color cup was happening on wednesday night but none of that so yeah we are live for a new show on the wednesday which is a genuine new show and it’s been it’s been a while since we’ve done this sort of um a new show because i think during the sort of the lion series it kind of be the weekly sort of um news shows kind of became just uh just a chat about whatever that’s happening in the lion series so we are back with our genuine news show tonight uh which is quite cool it’s nice to be able to sort of get back but um yeah we’ve got so much so much talk about and so much happening within sri aurobi within world rugby and stuff like that and talking mostly about sort of the rugby championship and um we’ll sort of discuss a little bit about the the video i put out this morning talking about how are sans are disrespecting the springboks and the all blacks and we’ll talk about that because i think that we’ve had some um interesting feedback some people saying that you know we’re reading too in too deep about it some people saying that you know that maybe i was kind of right with what i was saying so talk a little bit um about that and sort of get your feedback sort of as we go um but in terms of the comments i see ground swats here good evening honey null um potential says we should do a squad prediction 23 on monday night live i’m not sure which squad you’re talking i mean talking about the springbok squad then we can do that but if you’re talking about the challenge sorry another challenge the champions match that will also be quite fun we’ll talk we’ll talk about the champions match as well um i’m very very keen i’m very interested to sort of see what we’re gonna what what people will vote for and where we’re gonna go with the champions um match so we’ll talk about that in a little bit but we’re going to start with the rugby championship because that is the title of the video you know is it the is it the right court have we um have we had is going to australia been the right sort of call from some sansa shouldn’t we be going to australia and there’s quite a few sort of dimensions or layers rather to kind of sort of get through in terms of the rugby championship because a week ago we were talking about the fact that south africa europe and australia more specifically queensland were sort of in contention and that’s sort of where we were going to see our therapy championship being played out so they have decided to keep it in australia they will be going to queensland which is um which is i mean i suppose it’s about right really because that was sort of the original call and in terms of plans it’s a lot easier to sort of move things within a country and say right well we’re going to have it at perth but we’re now going to move it to queensland and sort of keep things in place it’s a lot easier for that for example than to move to south africa than to move to europe but the problem is is that there are now sort of talks or for example they’re not currently issues within queensland itself in terms of new restrictions so for example today i was reading a story by daily by the guardian sorry talking about the fact that within queensland they’ve actually banned people on moving from interstate travel so you can’t come from um for example like new south wales into queensland because of the issues with cover cases across protestants so you know now people are talking about the fact that will we actually be able to will we actually be able to go over to queensland will will spring box will the um will argentina will look humans be able to get into queensland or will they have to sort of quarantine elsewhere and then move there and stuff like that now i’m not saying i’ve heard this i’m just saying that you know the fact that um you know queensland has sort of closed their sort of interprovincial borders in many ways is that going to potentially affect the way that the competition will sort of be structured and at the moment the idea is that the game will happen but the third better slow cup will happen next weekend between australia and new zealand and perth and after that the rest of the games will happen in queensland now i put out a video this morning and it’s been sort of mixed reviews i was talking about the fact that our sans are disrespecting and i use i’ll put the words of disrespect in there so that can you see in the way that the the fixtures are scheduled and i want to know what you guys think because i think that it’s very much i’m very interested to see where you guys are sitting but at this stage the the fixtures have been released and at the moment and even the fixtures themselves are quite contradicting because the sanzo website has the press release and basically after the third bettest little cup game which is on the fourth september the rest of the games will be double headers which means that both australia’s first slapping games both this um conversions in games those four weeks will all be double headers at the same stadium on the same day so for example it’ll be like south africa versus new zealand or so let’s put it the first two weeks the first two weeks will be in new zealand versus argentina at let’s say four o’clock and then it will be south africa versus australia at seven o’clock same stadium same day same crowd double header so you buy tickets and you get two matches you know it’s you all understand what it is the problem is at the moment according to the press release the last two weeks will will be south africa versus new zealand and then australia versus argentina double headers same night same day same stadium same same sort of crowd and the whole point of what we were talking about earlier was are we sort of is it kind of disrespectful the fact that that that there are double headers for example and you know the fact that the next time the stream must play the all blacks is the hundredth test between the two nations so if we’re being very honest we probably know and we probably all accept that south africa and new zealand are it’s the biggest rivalry in rugby isn’t it let’s be honest live conversion new zealand i mean from the 1995 world cup through to now the biggest international game every single year is the africa versus new zealand i know the bears look ups big uh and i respect the players blood cup and i and i appreciate it and i think that australia are doing you know what what sort of shows you how big the best cup is is the fact that australia often sort of managed to sort of pitch up when it matters and and despite no matter what sort of a straight inside it is when it comes to the best little cup they suddenly pitch up and play rugby but south africa versus new zealand has always been the biggest international match now the hundredth match between the biggest rivalry in rugby could potentially be a curtain raiser and what i mean by curtain races is that it could literally be a four o’clock game ahead of the australia versus the argentina game at a proper six or six or seven o’clock is that doing this game of such big importance justice that was sort of my my my sort of my gist of this morning’s video and and that’s what i want to hear what you guys think are we doing such a significant game justice if it does become a curtain razor or even if it’s not a curtain razor if it is even if it’s a second game a one of two games because i’ve been to double headers i’ve been to days where you’ve got two matches at the same time or two matches following on from each other and let’s be honest they’re never the same significance you know i’ve been to games where a super rugby game would have an asean 21 game before or or various games stuff like that maybe we had like an international game which had a curry cut game perform and at the end of the day if you have a three o’clock and a five o’clock fixture the five o’clock fixture is always more important because at the end of the day you don’t want to watch that converse in new zealand this epic hundredth test match we’ve all been waiting for like an incredible encounter and then when it’s done you then go right well let me go get a beer what the first time then we’re gonna watch australia versus argentina i just kind of feel that it kind of sort of waters it down a little bit you know watching two matches in a row are never as intense as going to a match doing all that travel for one particular 80 minute display so that was sort of the point we’re going gonna make you know is it is it watering down this match by having it as part of a double header as having it as a curtain razor potentially depending on if they put the game before or after argentina versus australia and some people are saying that we must just be grateful for rugby and i understand that’s the argument i can also get behind that at the end of the day you know it’s it’s we shouldn’t maybe we shouldn’t be complaining and if we get rugby we get rugby and i agree with that i agree with that to a certain point you know you know the fact that the rugby championship is happening is is great but i don’t want to see a match i mean just think about if the 100th match between the south africa between the springboks and new zealand or the all blacks if it was happening at dunedin think about the event if it was happening at ayres park think about the event we would be talking about pre-match whatevers if it’s music artists if it’s if it’s lightning shirt i mean like like lighting shows or fireworks or something there would be such a big sort of deal made about the hundredth test there’d be fireworks there’d be big flags there’d be like this big this is the hundredth test this is the big event this 18 minutes is going to be this massive sort of vibe i don’t think we will get that with a double header you know i just i just don’t because whatever you have to do for one match you have to do for the other and even if they then say right well fair enough it’s such a big match we’ll put you second as someone who’s been to a double header i mean we i went to i think with south africa versus argentina at um f b stadium about quite a while ago actually um because i wasn’t a boston yet but they they had they had a funny game followed by a rugby championship game and i can tell you right now that before the game you know it was half full people sort of rolling in and then like the event was argentina but it definitely wasn’t the same vibe as when i went to go and watch the stream walks versus argentina in um um at the national database stadium it was one big sort of game and you sort of that’s what you’re there for you arrive you drink you have a good time and we’re all waiting for that 80 minutes it’s just not the sort of same um and i think the point i’m sort of making and the point we’re trying to sort of get to is has it been the right decision to go to to australia because the problem is and some people were saying in the comments the fact that that rugby isn’t the biggest thing in australia it’s not the number one sport the reason that there might be double headers is the fact that you can’t fill stadiums for example they’re saying that they might not be able to fill a stadium for argentina versus new zealand you might not be able to fill a stadium for new zealand versus africa i personally would be surprised if you can’t fill a stadium for new zealand versus south africa but given the fact that they are these potential issues with queensland in terms of their their quality restrictions and not letting people into their province and potentially sort of pitching and patching around a bit of a lockdown you know if they can’t fill the stadiums unless they go with the double header if there are these sort of issues you know people talking about scheduling issues with you know um national rugby league and you know aussie rules and stuff like that have we made the right decision to go to australia would it not have been would it have been better to maybe gone to europe and said right slap converse new zealand 100th test twickenham 60 000 fans would that have been a bigger occasion was that feasible and some people have been saying that the reason it’s double headers the reason they’re playing at the same stadium has been sort of the buyer bubble but there’s been no confirmation just yet what the buy bubble actually will be we’re not sure if we’re talking about a very strict blah blah blah we’re talking about you know a bit like the british irish lions series you know that’s sort of very strict you can only come sort of in and out of training and stuff like that because generally from what i’ve read australia and new zealand have been very much you kind of go into lockdown you reduce the cases you go back to normal there hasn’t i know last year during the the tri-nations or whatever it was i think was australian nations it was quite a strip by bubble i mean um mario desmos talking about the fact that it was like you’ll go to training and you go back to your room you go training go back to you you’d have to have team meetings whilst in the same hotel on zoom so there actually hasn’t been confirmation on exactly what sort of bi bubble we’re talking about but you know if that is the case is is having all four teams in the same environment at the same time is that as safe as if you for example had to say because what i was basically alluding to was maybe you have slapped vs australia two games at it’s called the suncorp stadium and they play songkong stadium suncorm stadium at the same weekend you have new zealand versus argentina at the seabus stadium and you know the gold coast and you and and just sort of creating do different events instead of sort of combining them into one sort of double header and i don’t know i’m interested to see what you guys have to say i just feel that as soon as you sort of say it’s a double header it kind of loses the significance you know it kind of becomes a bit like seven-ish almost you know where you’ve got these like several games in a day as opposed to you will travel you’ll pay you will be there for one 80-minute game so let me know what you think i’m gonna i’m gonna go through the comments stuff like now uh so tim vandenberg says excited for the champions match background of alright but lazy and fabulous we’ll go through that in a little bit later everyone says how’s it brew i’m voting last but out of retirement uh jake schroeder says as long as we get rugby i’m not that bothered any use on rusty scandal nothing yet that’s in theory that hearing should be taking place either this week or next week um reckless says i wouldn’t say sansa is disrespecting anyone because the all blacks versus essay games are the last two games new zealand if they really wanted it could have matches over there well that’s the thing because the press release had those two games as the first two games and then the fixtures on the soundzola website then has them as the last two games so they actually have some any confirmation officially as to which those games will actually happen first or last if it is lost you can sort of sit then say well they’ve done the best within the situation but we haven’t had confirmation of that just yet a contender says we can do for both teams playing in the game example first if it kicks off in the carnival versus the ox and one gm team jerseys or back three beef between invasive and pimpy and shitty go back to 14. yeah so i think maybe next week or i’m trying to think now so it’s probably the week after monday the sixth i’d imagine september on monday night live maybe we’ll do a sort of which sort of springbok site would you like to see uh tim vandenberg says sansa is looking less like a partnership more like game of thrones with each passing day container says we could do double headers for world cup before slack versus iron or scotland we can do a zimbabwe versus romanian the second tier world cup but you see i think i think that kind of concept sort of shows you that there’s always significance towards who plays first who plays second and i know it’s a bit archaic but we were all at school and was always you build up towards the first team you build that towards the best game of the day as rn eight says isn’t the bigger game or is the second game in school the first team game was always lost and that’s kind of the whole point you know is it if you do say right argentina versus australia followed by austin university new zealand followed by south africa versus australia south of west australia is the main event and moving on to that if you then do the same thing imagine putting slash conversion new zealand as the curtain raised in inverted commerce it’s just not right isn’t it doesn’t feel right matthew dixon says home crowds are always going to believe their team is more important than any other even if the stats prove otherwise it all depends on the home game though neutral think this is heaven and i think i understand that i think it’s a very good point but even though that australia will feel that the game against is argentina’s more is more important how depressing is it that the 100th match between the two greatest rugby teams rugby nations of all time and they are they are they statistically are that becomes a curtain race you know this is what we’re getting at and i know it sounds like a small thing to have an issue about but it’s just sad you know you know as as as kate dixon says bing matches is like we binge netflix grand schwarz saying i think making the hundredth block first all blacks match the curtain raises purely a business decision it’s the only way to get bums in the seat in aussie rugby match you know saying that way people will stay for the aussie game and that’s sad you know the fact that you’ve had to use what what should have been a massive celebration of the two of the best rugby sides or rugby nations or rugby unions or fraternities of all time and it kind of gets reduced to as a well that’s a little exhibition on the side so we can get people to come and watch australia vs argentina it’s tough it’s tough and it is it is the situation we sort of find ourselves in everyone says i think tough time calls for tough decisions i would rather have saturday game and sunday games to have double header but your times are strange i do understand your viewpoint there well that’s the thing you know i think even if it was as i said even if you have to stay stay with the same stadiums doing a saturday and a sunday or a friday night game saturday game you know just making its own event uh says i agree i i’d love to have a vibe for the 100th game but at the end of the day we’re living during cover it’s not as easy to pull off uh contenders says it’s purely to try and get people to enjoy aussie rugby because of their hiding versus new zealand um i ran eight says i would also prefer boxing all blacks on the saturday and oz versus argentina the next day rather than double header uh rudy pedro says slavka vs new zealand is obviously of no importance to australia since they play that game first it’s disrespectful and saying imagine safe conversion is eating with the sea of australian jerseys watching that sickens me and lunky says i wonder how we would feel as snapkins if the role was switched like if we hosted a new universal australia were celebrating their hundredth look it’s a very good point and that kind of sort of brings a little bit of neutrality but what we saw for example in the first two games down in south africa the first rugby championship game was south africa’s home game as a result small detail small details during the first game in the rugby championship between south africa and argentina it was south africa’s home game as a result the backdrops were slovakia sponsors the ball for example that they used was the african branded uh the name on the score sheet was south africa first the second test for example was the argentina home game as a result when sierra khaleesi and jacques ninoba gave their post-match press conference there was an argentina background they had argentina science there argentina sponsors backgrounds the ball that they used for that test was all branded argentina it was basically everything was argentina except for the fact that they were in south africa at the nelson mandela bay stadium so you know if you had that sort of attitude maybe you could say listen even if it’s just for the one this is the hundredth game between new zealand versus africa we have to make this game special so let’s ensure that they the second game and we pull up the stops and that we make sure that what should have been one of the biggest games in the history of rugby feels like one of the biggest games in the history of rugby so i don’t think it’s an ideal situation you know i think that as much as i probably wouldn’t have liked to see you guys you know the problem is as well i actually just don’t have much time for australia sport at the moment we are talking about the country that that’s cricket team refused to come into a south africa that basically so so basically so australia cricket refused to come to south africa and play cricket despite us doing or everything they asked for and then in the same month said if you want to you can come to australia and you can play the entire lion series in australia will host the spring marks you can play one of games against the australian sides we’re happy to do that so for example some people were saying that we must thank australia for hosting them and i’m not thanking them i’m sorry i’m not thanking him i don’t think australia are doing anybody a favor by hosting the series the reason that they are hosting the the rugby championship is because they’re going to make money off it they can sell tickets they can sell tv rights they get to sell they they get the advertising so i don’t think it’s a case of australia going you know what chaps we’ll take one for the team and we’ll host the series here it’s not that at all australia or hosting there might be the rugby championship because they can make money off it because they can put buns on the seats they can charge tickets they can build rugby you know i don’t so let’s let’s not let’s not get that mixed you know i don’t think australia i’m not doing any nation a favor by hosting it you know we were happy to host as well we said come come to south africa we can’t have hands but we’ll host you guys we’ll put you in hotels we’ll give you training facilities we can have the rugby championship here so let’s let’s let’s also sort of not get it so twisted you know we know that we could have had a chair we know that there were options in europe and i’m pretty sure they would have been happy to have it as well so australia are not doing us a favor by hosting us so i’m not going to sit there and thank australia for example for hosting us i’m not going to say i’m not i don’t want to sit there and say that they’re being you know that i don’t like them for it but they’re not doing it out of the goodness of their hearts they’re doing it because there is financial you know benefit um jd says let’s remember in us rugby units die in their top two sports aussie rules there might be leagues so they are desperately trying to keep rugby union alive let’s hope so for rugby’s sake and that’s the problem you know the fact that they they can’t basically the implication is that australia cannot sell so that conversion new zealand i can tell you right now if you had played the supreme box versus australia in london in dublin in murrayfield in in cardiff you could pack a stadium you could say so that converse new zealand in wales you would pack the millennium stadium i think you would i genuinely think you would pack a stadium i think you’ll pack same anywhere in the uk france i’m not convinced maybe you would maybe you wouldn’t i’m not entirely sure i’m not sure you’d pack the entire um stud de france but i think you would pack trick in them i think if you said australia versus i mean new zealand versus south africa 100th test in twickenham i think you’d pack it i genuinely would whereas i think i don’t not that they seem that they’re unsure they will be able to pack in australia which kind of sort of makes you wonder was it the right choice um everyone says you’re stuck in them would have been a thousand times better than aussies her work man or drinking gatorade no it’s just water this is this is just the only bottle i had available uh matthew dixon says would have been amazing if the rugby championship was hosted by japan or france when you travel in bulgar for world cup 2023 uh candy county good evening says new zealand have absolutely disgraced themselves and the sport by refusing to play further matches argentina never complained about traveling anywhere and doing their job but also here never ever rocked the boat don’t they you talk about p shot and the fact that he wants to revolutionize s um world rugby and he wants to make it better for tier two nations i think they’ve never rocked the boat they’ll they get on with it mario ledezma was always like if we have to play in south korea we’ll play on south korea if you have to play in europe we’ll play in europe we’re not going to get home games we’re playing australia we’ll play in australia so yeah there has been a little bit of new zealand saying no you’re not going to play and we’ve seen south korea saying well we’ll come here we don’t really mind playing but new zealand have definitely not done themselves a lot of good but the fact that they’ve sort of taken on you know sanso and and sort of made quite a lot of objections against them so it’s been sort of an interesting time really um contender says new anthem for australia australians and let us get festival here ugly um yeah it’s a strange strange situation with australian rugby isn’t it um shows what happens when any tier one nation does what they want groundswatch says oz is totally taking advantage of the situation this is all andy mourinho’s fault it makes me sick that he once wore the stormers jersey and katie dixon says if what i’ve read is correct new zealand is kinda in full red alert mode because they covered head count got out of control and there was the boss cover up and that add that to the rugby politics and honey now says is it me or does the aussies hate the box and it’s very selfish country i don’t know what i think the strange thing and almost it’s not amusing i think it’s i don’t think it’s a laughing matter new zealand are currently in a full lockdown because of a couple of covert cases and you know we sat there as sort of africans thinking well imagine we had to go into a lockdown because of their cases but i was actually quite amazed looking at australia and looking at new zealand particularly in new zealand how poor their vaccine rollout has been and that kind of sort of made me realize why they’re sort of going into into like a full lockdown because of a couple of cover cases because if you look at new zealand i mean we’re talking about a country that has a population of what like five million people and yet they have vaccinated just 37 percent of their popular well fully vaccinated 21 of their population which is just over a million people so it’s quite strange that for a new for a country which is so small so in many ways sort of thought of as first world and have so many sort of resources that they’ve actually had a really really poor vaccine rollout i mean they’ve they fully vaccinated 21 as as as kritwat says 22 percent of the people if we look at south africa’s vaccine a lot we have vaccinated uh fully vaccinated 8.8 of our people which is 5.1 million people a new zealand only had to vaccinate 5 million people so if if new zealand had vaccinated as many people as south africa has they’d be 100 fully vaccinated and in theory wouldn’t have to be going into lockdown so that was quite sort of interesting so it’s kind of weird actually that we sort of especially sort of south africans sort of we were so ready to go over there and kind of assume that they’ve got things under control but they don’t you know australia in many ways were the same where they were sort of going into lockdowns all the time and not really sort of doing a mass vaccine rollout and then you look at the uk and parts of europe where they’ve had such a successful vaccine rolex i mean i think the uk vaccinated like 60 of the population let me get some stats i don’t i don’t lie to you um uk have vaccinated 62.9 percent fully vaccinated 66.2.9 of the entire population as a result and this is one of the main reasons that i got vaccinated and that i would really really encourage you to all get vaccinated if you have watched the premier league i watched manchester united play in they’ve packed out all traffic this weekend we’re talking 60 000 fans all i want to do is get back in the stadium all i want to do is go and watch the spring marks at ellis park with 65 000 staff cans drinking beer watching their side you know so getting the jab means we can move towards that and that’s what we’re seeing in the united kingdom and that’s why many ways i think maybe we should have gone to europe we could have played in front of full stadiums you wouldn’t have had to have worried as much about sort of the kobe cases because in australia and new zealand because their vaccine robots haven’t been as as big they get a couple of cases and they’re like right we’re locked dining we’re locked on and we’re sort of we’re you know red alert because you know the uk have said right well we vaccinated 62.9 percent of our population mosques off we’re gonna we’re gonna live we’re gonna live we’re gonna go on we’re gonna go on you know and um we’ll sort of cope with it so it’s quite an interesting sort of thing and that’s why look it’s your decision and stuff like that but i’ve got vax i’ve got my first dose on monday if you’re in south africa please i’d really i’d really like to encourage you to go and get get vaccinated let’s try and get back in the stadiums let’s try and go and you know watch rugby together i want i want to have forever sports meetups i want i want to say to you guys in johannesburg right we’re going to have a forever sports meet up at this place and we can all go meet up there but you know until we start moving back to normal which will only happen once we’re all vaccinated that’s not really going to happen um so um county council’s here in ireland over 70 of the population of vaccine our population is close to the same as new zealand it’s not hard um crucified says but the dab does not mean that they simply move to the goal post it’s not about code it’s all about political power not their demand well the thing is always said that once they vaccinate i think it was like 60 i think i wanted to use 20 million people we could start moving towards normal so look if they do that if they don’t do that we’ll only know once we get there so yeah i got vaxxed um i’m still a little bit tender from monday um i want to get back to stadiums i want to go back to normal i want to go and watch my lions play i want to go i want to watch the sigma lines get thrashed at this park you know that’s what i want so if getting a jab means i can do that then then we can move we can move uh honey now says the box playing on sunday on the 12th september like seven in the morning they haven’t confirmed times we are playing the 12 september grand sloth says here in the desert the bachelor has been excellent people are here are starting to go for their boosted jabs already um yeah that’s what we want but um yeah so i’m gonna move on from the maybe championship because we’ve got so much talk about in terms of rugby news so technically so second of all technically secular ian foster signed a new contract so new zealand coach ian foster known as fosse has officially signed a new contract until 2023 the world cup and it’s quite interesting because i think a lot of people last year weren’t particularly convinced especially when they lost to argentina but ian foster has played 10 games well has managed 10 games or coach 10 games as the all blacks coach which half of them actually come against australia so he’s played um 10 games he’s won seven drew one and lost two so he’s operating at a seventy percent win percentage the old baxter scored 413 points underneath him and conceded 138 so i mean i don’t know if um i don’t know i look at ian foster and i don’t look at all black side and i don’t think that um i don’t think that they’re like sensational side but i think some people are very upset that he got a contract extension and i must admit i don’t look at that new zealand side and think that they’re a bad side i think that they’re very much i don’t think that they’re the generation that they had before but let’s be honest not every generation is going to have illustrio of jerome kano richie mccoy and kieran reed you know so i think i i i don’t think there’s an issue with him signing a new contract he’s won 70 of his games he’s only lost two and ten he’s drawn one you know he lost one game against argentina one game in australia but he’s won three games against australia they’re scoring points they’re not looking terrible i don’t i don’t really see the issue i’m sort of surprised that people are surprised that you’ve got a contract extension so let’s just see what everybody else says um but yeah so uh jd says great show your chance of doing some live zoom interviews with x players x refs cetera we’re working on it we’re working on it we want to move um towards sort of that situation stuff like that so so hopefully we can we can move towards doing that um k dixon says everyone is so they’re so mad about in foster extension yikes yeah i said i don’t really understand it i don’t think that they’ve been looking bad underneath them i just think it’s not as talented over new zealand generation as there was a year ago which is saying a lot given the fact that some fantastic players in the zeno side but they don’t have ma nani and conrad smith they don’t have sunny but williams and conrad smith they don’t have you know dan carter they don’t have jerome kane or richard mccork here and read it it was always going to be a changing of the god and they’re still playing some tremendous rugby um aaron ed says there’s no love lost between sc and ice rugby in my opinion and it seems that to me that we have more respect for all blacks than they have for us um yeah i don’t think there is much between south africa and new zealand when it comes to i mean southern australia comes new zealand i don’t know ah sorry i had a couple of beers earlier my stomach is hating me for it um aiden barnes hall says i got facts yesterday my arm is sore as well i’m totally with you i want to get back saying you’re 100 but i’m literally that’s the only it’s the only effect i’ve had like my arm here is this bloody sore but apart from that i’ve been pretty fine um i’d love a fair sports meetup so would i all i want to do is be able to say to my six thousand four hundred subscribers there must be twenty of you and joby let’s go and have some beer somewhere hopefully beers are me if things are going well if man if you guys go and support manscape maybe manscapes can sponsor some beers and we can have a bit of a meet-up which would be cool uh lungi said i’m delighted new zealand has extended um foster’s contract there we go and katie sexton says everyone’s raised here look i mean i mean scott roberts has been fantastic hasn’t he um he and he just sort of never seems to be really moving but yeah look i don’t i don’t think the info i don’t think i don’t think foster’s a bad player a bad coach as at all i think scott robertson is the inevitable next choice but i don’t think he’s that old and he keeps extending a crusaders he keeps extending with museum rugby so he’s 47 years old he will be the next all blacks coach i have no doubt in two years time he’ll be 49 he will be the next all blacks coach um but they wanted to sort of um they want to promote within if at the end of the day foster doesn’t win the world cup he gets replaced if he joins the world cup he probably still gets replaced to be honest i mean scott robertson has been the best creationist unit for a long time so i think we all probably know that um you know that he that that he was the obvious choice in many ways but he’s not gonna be there for a long time he’s 56 years old he’s really 58 and a couple years time we’ll move to scott robertson we all kind of know that scott robertson will will eventually take over um just sort of a matter of time isn’t it um honey now says what will happen if ozps twice oh let’s not this let’s not sort of throw that out there i’d rather not think about that to be honest i don’t know if if they beat us twice we kind of have to sort of uh reassess um aaron says very surprised thought they would have gone scott robertson uh ages ago uh would you visit thorman park and monster play the lions one of the best daves that have an unreal kanekun genuinely all i wanted to do and me and lukani were having this conversation that all we want to do is be able to jump on a plane and go overseas and go and watch like like for me to go overseas to watch the lions play monster in in ireland or play flippin play bennetton and italy that’s like all i want to do like i’ve been i’ve been i’ve been wanting to go on an outgoing series with with the spring marks to europe since i was about 12 years old so i would i will i would love to do that i would love to be able to get to a point where we can move and we can do a vlog and say right this is what it’s like to go overseas this is what it’s like to go and um you know go and go and see a home game in monster go see our home game at lengths and stuff like that so it’s definitely very very high in the bucket list um i’d love to do it and and and then a lot of people over there we’ve got a lot of a lot of subscribers over there and i mean it would be a dream an absolute a genuine dream of mine to go over there have a forever sports meet up at a freaking irish pub and i mean how could that be for us to go to some pub in the middle of ireland and and and chat to people who i’ve been chatting with in the comments for for months and stuff like that so it’s it’s it’s in the works um you know we don’t really have the funding to do it now but in in the next couple of years you never know maybe we’ll be able to do a a trip over there so i’m i’ll never say never i really really do want to do it i want to go traveling i the fact that i can’t go and travel 20 20 minutes up the road and go watch the lions is killing me so i really want to go overseas and be able to watch games in ireland in england and stuff like that it would be so much fun um so we’ll probably start putting polls out actually you know once we once we’ve got a bit of budget maybe we’ll start putting polls out and sort of seeing where is everyone and we can go and meet up in in various places you know so yeah i mean there’s 47 of you guys in the comments where where are you guys you know if if you guys aren’t in zlatan no no even if you’re in south africa where are you guys where would be a good place to do a meet-up you know have we got 20-30 people in joburg and we can do a job meetup do we have to go make a trip to cape town do we need to go to durban do we all have to go to bahrain to see grant where are we going let me know in the comments um quran says use those manscape rounds and do a meet up there in the desert look grounds run swats if you if you’re hosting we’re coming we’re coming careful and i’ve already told you you’re gonna have to miss the airport for um for the lions to our next up so so you also need to start saving those i don’t know what currency you have in bahrain um albert from lingan says oz beating essay what you’re smoking hopefully hopefully some bad stuff because we can’t be having that um the donald rucker says rna understand it’s the all black admin who are disrespectful normal kiwis are not like that it’s funny that actually because a lot of people have said please don’t please stop saying it’s the all blacks it’s not the all blacks it’s the uh it’s the administrators but unfortunately they’re kind of all under the same umbrella aren’t there um katie dixon says i think raise is inevitable as long as no other country offers him a bottle of cash i mean that’s i’m sure he probably must have had some big offers the fact i think he’s had about three or four contract extensions the last four years and i imagine that’s because so many people are wanting matthew dixon says maybe russia should convince razer to coach the box probably won’t happen but would be interesting can you come to the lions maybe uh edinburgh says in foster and dave when you are solid coaches you are also quite like dave bernie right the kdx says irish pub meetup well there we go we’ve got so advocating for for the uh for the irish meetup jd says cape town at greenpoint stadium you know maybe a trip down for for stormers versus lions method dixon says pta so how we can we can we can do we can do pta um not that far and binding all says is politics that’s killing rugby also are these rule changes necessary i feel like gregory was fine as it was yeah i’m not a fan of them but we’ll sort of see i suppose how it goes albert from lingan says loftus bar pretoria aiden says i’m in jobic well there we go jd says all in cape town i can now walk joe we got grahamstar joe big look i’ll be in grahamstown at the end of the year um so there’s a couple of people in gravestone obviously the canyons and grandstands so so we’ll we’ll do it we’ll do we’ll i mean i’ll be in gravestone september hopefully so maybe when i’m in gravestone let you guys know because everybody is in gravestown we can have a meet up but i reckon i reckon once the united rugby championship is going you must do it we must do a gerbil meet up see you see who’s around there maybe do a bit of a trip to victoria watch a bulls game or something i’m keen i’m keen you know i think that this last year it’s been so cool to chat rugby with you guys online that would be so cool to be able to sit down and and and meet you and not just have a an avatar that you sort of chat to and stuff like that or a profile picture but be able to actually sit down and chat to the people that i’ve been chatting with for the last year uh but moving on to the sort of the rest of the news um a couple of things i want to talk about so first of all we’ve sort of talked about um ian foster but sort of a bit closer to home we’re going to end off with the players choice awards but we’ll talk about the sigma lines oh my goodness those bloody lines the line’s a bit of a disaster aren’t there um jd says a meet up in live show yeah we could do that uh gran suarez says hopefully when the play gets better i’ll be back in cape town and december up for the meetup well grand schwartz if you’re in cape town in december and they’re in around the sevens i will i will genuinely make a mission just to come and sit and say hi so maybe we can do that for um for maybe we could do a cape town 7 sort of vibe and then around then or whenever i mean cape town is not too far but otherwise the the joe big chaps you must do a urc urc meetup and watch some games there finding themselves we just all need to hit the gym i don’t know it requires exercise aiden says i’d be very keen to watch yoshi game with you guys 100 lions improve man hold the face well let’s talk about the line shall we let’s talk about the lions um the lion’s gonna get a new coach they are gonna get a new coach we we know this we know that they will get a new coach um it’s been confirmed by australia that they are currently um looking and it’s it’s a bit of a strange bunch that have kind of been linked so we’re looking at someone that so according to essay rugby mag look the current coaching staff their contracts expire in in october so cash and shawnee rasmus and warren wyckley and the bunch they’re all kind of sort of um that expires in in october so rude australia confirmed that there will be a new coaching set up because we’ve got carrie cup starting in january so these are some of the names that are being tarted and they’re all extreme books but um i never liked the fact that that’s who you’re you sort of your biggest claim to fame but the the names that are being thrown around are the likes of andre vitorius who’s currently coaching um nw or pucker for in the varsity cup as well as the leopards then we’ve got albert vandenberg who is the greek as assistant coach at the moment there’s louis kuhn who is the national skills coach and the head of the um high performance sort of srib rugby uh set up and then there’s also a story about the fact that victor madfield and jacques ferry could beat the two coaches now i mean victor madfield coached at the sharks i mean at the lions a couple of like a couple of years back i didn’t really see much of um improvement while he was there to be honest i don’t remember our line not suddenly getting much better apparently he was often offered a um contract with the bulls he turned it down but he hasn’t coached since so i don’t really want someone who was a consultant at the lions hasn’t really coached and i was becoming a full-time coach and then jacquerie was the name that was being touted alongside victor matchfield now look jacques fury is probably my favorite spring mark of all time you know i think i think it was probably as i said if you guys tell me right now who’s your favorite spring rock i think jacques free is probably him now he was the usa defense coach back in 2019 for the world cup but since then consultancy for some schools so would i like to see geography in the lions coaching setup i i could i could learn to like it would i like to see him as a head coach probably not no probably not the stormers before they end up with john dobson we’re gonna go for eddie jones the bulls currently have jake white the sharks for all that short evident might not have the most experience they’re bringing in neil pal they bring in this person they’re bringing in experience from europe the sharks are busy assembling a powerhouse coaching setup they’re after warren whiteley so you you think about those sort of coaches and look i think the western province probably also needs to do a bit of a review but you look at those coaches and now the equivalent of that for the lions is to go after you know under victorious whose leopards or nwu or victor matthew and job free who’ve never really coached that that sort of level or an albert vandenberg who you know was the is the greek was assistant it’s not really the sort of category we’re talking about is it i don’t want i mean no offense look maybe maybe some of these coaches would prove me wrong and they probably would i don’t want a greek as assistant coach to become the head coach of the lions and other rugby championship it’s me it’s very mean but it’s honest we’re talking about you know we’re talking about trying to make this side one of the best sides in europe that’s that’s that’s where this competition is going we’re talking about in a year’s time being part of the challenge cup being part of the champions cup so if we want to if the sigma lions or the emirates lines depending on if we freaking even get a sponsorship if we want to become one of the best sides in europe are these the coaches to do it and i don’t think any of them are to be perfectly honest i saw a rumor that matt proudfoot is being linked to it now that’s somebody i could get behind you know if matt pratford wants to come in coach that’s a big name though and i feel that there’s two things when it comes to a big name one obviously they’re a good coach two attracting players you know evan fenner fernand talked about the fact that we have to dip into the market courtney’s kassadin has just signed for the north hampton saints as he is one of the two players that were playing in the i think was the 2016 or 17 final when the then the lines are playing really well the only two players are still sorry he was one of three players currently at the union as part of that set up the only players remaining after courtney son are ross cronier who before the last couple of weeks couldn’t get a look in and ru andrea now i read a story about the fact that cornucon was fit it was ready and he was not being picked he was being overlooked how are you looking overlooking courtney do we remember the season where courtney’s got son scored about flipping 15 tries or something stupid like we took i mean we’ve just we’ve just lost court wisconsin who apparently wasn’t good enough according to our current coaching staff to play carrie cup but northampton saints will go and play him in the premiership what is going on there it is so frustrating this is what i’m talking about the fact that i want a big name coach i want a coach who has been there who has done that who has got the credentials we promoted within it didn’t work i want to see a big name coach arrive jimmy stonehouse is about as little name as possible and he’s been in and around the block for a long time and he’s as sort of small scale as i would actually like to see at the sigma lines you know go and get some go and get go and bring franco smith back from from italy if you go and say the ex-italian coach x6 nations head coach this coaching alliance i can get behind that you go and tell me and look i love andre victorious who’s my idol as a number 10 growing up but you go and tell me that the uh that a vastly cup head coach is now the head of the united rugby championship franchise i’m going to be skeptical i’m going to be i’m brutally honest i will be skeptical so it’s frustrating it’s very very frustrating um mark julian’s lee says you couldn’t fit you couldn’t all fit in my bungalow in whitney oxen uk look we’re willing to try eh we’re going to try if you’re willing to try we’re ready to try we’ll we’ll operate the bungalows uh grand so says the geography not do a player coasting in japan he might have it sounds about right i can’t i can neither confirm or deny but it sounds about right um says my favorite springboard player ever as poster montgomery decent shot uh louis says leave edge says buller albert van lingen says lions lost the plot completely they need to get out the checkbook like at the balls to spend themselves out of the whole agreed shawn and fail and evening sean says why not go for an ex-player lens to having the coaching sta the next player from argentina the problem is we’re going x players in lines look i suppose um jacques free’s next player andre torres is the next player i mean warren white is an x player as well i’m gonna be sad if we lose him i just want a big name that’s been recognized and has been doing things you know uh louis says they should try and get crusaders coach look i would love scott robinson my goodness i’d personally fund him i mean i don’t have much money to contribute but if i could i would uh graham says they need a coach with big time experience even if it’s just pro 14 experience but many years at the top level you can’t drop a coach in the deep end with a young team in a very time competition i’m going to show that it’s exactly right it is exactly right the lions do not have a bad squad but they’ve got such a young squad and they’ve got minimal experience to help them you can’t have i’m sorry vincent tooker is a senior player he is a senior player in the lion’s side he’s 22 years old he should be focusing on being one of the best players in the park week in week out not sitting there helping youngsters adapt how can you at 22 years old be sitting there telling somebody who’s 19 years old listen this is how you play a professional level when you’re going to go up against world cup finalists world cup players you know you could you’re going to play as damien there lindy you’re going to be playing against ireland internationals you know you play against blooming freaking johnny sexton you’re gonna play against a world player of the year and now the 22 year old must help nurture the 20 year old in terms of level it’s nonsense get some experience in and help these youngsters there are some incredibly talented players of the lions but there’s no experience to help them uh aiden says there’s no planning and four side of the lines right now like you said these other essay franchises are assembling very competitive coaching staff 100 percent matthew dixon says lions need a coaching group he says head coach scott matthew defense coach jacques three forwards alba vandenberg defense attacking skills dick muir oh nice now you’re talking are you talking warren white i’d like to have himself keep sean erasmus as well he’s a talented coach but look i mean i think scott matty i’m not quite sure he’s ready but the rest of that i can definitely back i mean scott bench is an assistant coach i would love that sort of vibe um albert from lingan says complete school sun is leaving essay shorts what a waste uh nz’s player retention the line has always been terrible jimmy sterling’s alliance would be great i’m all for that where is akkaman he’s in japan stewart lancaster i would take you in and cash i’ll take a lot of people to be honest uh jd says the ladies with club rugby just asking out of curiosity so much emphasis on the box curry cup a channel on dstv to help expose club rugby would be great your thoughts on how to grow club rugby us one of the best amazing was brilliant miss him yeah look club rugby look it’s it’s a lot better than for example club cricket we’ve got the gold cup which which does sort of operate but um it’s difficult isn’t it you know sort of trying to and i think in general sara we have done quite a good job at making sort of a big deal of smaller competitions um but i would love to be involved in sort of collaborative you’re involved in hype and exposure for sort of um collaborative and stuff like that we do need to see more of it but um there’s the gold cup so i don’t think they’re doing terrible things there um but in terms of everything else i want to cover um a couple other other stories not much ready to discuss but just a couple of sort of headlines um it looks like colby’s moving too too long he is currently in talks to sort of leave tulum to go to toulon on a three-year deal apparently um i saw talks that the sharks are also keen but i just don’t see how they can afford it i mean south africa got a 60 million round salary cap now you look at something like andre pollard he’s earning 20 million around a year so he’ll be earning a third of the slack and salary cap now i know that chasing corey’s not earning anything near that but damian villas is one of the better player players in the country at only 5 million rand and if chairs on colby is earning less than that i’ll be very very surprised so i don’t see how the sharks who have just signed lana caneer cameron wright blooming samoan a argentina um international squad member uh sierra kalisi bongi minami i don’t see how they could afford chess and colby unless they’ve got some really weird um creative accounting stuff in the in the in the corners i know the bulls do that quite a lot they’ve got sponsorships they’ve got after career options like skull brits they gave him a job after he was done and stuff like that so against the sharks have got being very creative i don’t see how they could ever begin to afford colby right now but i did see that rumor so who knows he also just simon gilbert fun fact he’s now part of the girl but sponsorship brand uh stephen khans the bulls outside center has committed to playing 15’s rugby came out today and said that he’s got no intention of going back to the seven setup that he will be um focusing on the balls and trying to make it at um 15’s level so that’s another sort of number 13 to throw into the power with the likes i want to see the semalani with jesse creer with la kanye um with who else are the good for 13s at the moment vernon cox coming through quite well um so he said my quote says my immediate future plan is to focus solely on the bulls now i’m definitely finished with savings for now it’s actually a conversation we had beforehand and that’s where we are now so yeah so stephen khans will be focusing on on 50s which means that i think we’ll see a lot more of him at outside center which is which is good to see i like him i like stephen khan’s i think that there are just unbelievable amounts of players at the bulls i mean you’re lying or poo is playing very good rugby there but um yeah then the craving week’s been cancelled unfortunately for the second year in a row um saw be confirmed today that all essay youth weeks youth weeks youth weeks have been cancelled so no and the 16 under 13 or under 18 craving week size the s under 18 side was announced today so you can go and check that out on uh super sports schools as well as sa rugby very much it’s difficult isn’t it and we basically had no rugby during 2021 or 2020 and we’ve just picked an under 18 site so yeah probably a lot on coaches input and a lot of expectation and reputation and stuff like that but uh yeah so there’s some of the headlines floating around and then we’ll we’ll finish up with the with the bright block awards uh let me just go through them in the comments um sean if elsa stewart lancaster signed a contract standing with lanster we can throw money or something surely i mean we’ve got nice weather hayden partners says imagine we could get in um michigan will be so ironic i can’t take anyone these days to be honest grantsworth says i thought the colby move was just rumors well i think the move to to toulon is is not rumors to sharks i don’t see it happening i just don’t see how they could afford it barry green says what the name of the team that he might go to we’re talking about colby it’s toulon uh great ass to the sharks if it realizes i don’t see it happening shaw’s cooking the books there must they have to be cooking the books if the sharks sign colby there’s no ways if the sharks aren’t kobe there’s absolutely no ways that they are sticking to the um 60 million rand salary cap not a chance with khaleesi with me with i mean they’ve got some big players there you know with bringing in a couple of big players there’s no way that they’re sticking within that 60 miles they’re bringing in colby you telling me that you’re gonna pay copy less than five or less than 10 million around a year not a chance um jd says apparently there are some expensive appliances available cheap for resale maybe they can raise funds that’s where yeah look i mean durbin we all know it’s been operating down there louis says if rusty get dropped they should get him oh can you imagine russia russ was the alliance i actually made this joke the other day but can you imagine jonathan myberg says what’s the feel in the box playing the reign of the championship in australia i think to be honest i don’t think we’re all particularly happy about it but we kind of we’ll kind of just take it i suppose but uh yeah so the bright rocker awards were well nominees were announced today i think there’s a little bit of recency buyers to be honest and some people go after me because and said i’m biased or whatever but i just think that some people haven’t been some players are there who i don’t think have been playing well enough for long enough to to sort of warrant the hype that they are getting so i meant to see what you guys have to say about that but um so right so the fourth player of the year for the players choice awards this is all bright drop by the way they’ve been doing this for a while the fourth twenty two thousand twenty one four player of the year nominations from bright rock sa are sier khaleesi franco mostert evan newest and evan etzebeth now my biggest problem with these awards are that it’s august we’ve had yeah quick math six spring rock games six spring rock games so franco mostert even ezibeth i very much doubt that bright rock were watching their european games you know i very much doubt that they were watching franklin watson in japan and thinking yeah that’s in so it’s a little bit strange to me the first word these things are even i mean like you look at backline player of the year for example and the nominations are sullivan davis damien dalian the edward phantom over edwin cater so la kanye has not been nominated backline player of the year chasing colby is borderline one of the best players in the world at the moment and he’s not normally a backline player of the year and if you’re going to go evan ruiz you’re taking an account club form so i don’t know if there’s a specific policy when it comes to brass rock awards that it’s based on rugby played either for the spring marks or within south africa but i mean edwin cater for backline player of t
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