“What Are PED’s?” – Jake Paul

“What Are PED’s?” – Jake Paul

bro i’m over here eating like ice cream you know and these guys are accusing me of doing like sugars i’m like bro i literally have a bro i’m leaving eating ice creams how the [ __ ] can i be on pe these you know how can i be on pvs i literally say ice cream cone bro uh what’s it called uh a drumstick a vanilla fudge drumstick you guys i just had a vanilla fudge drumstick like why would i be injecting testosterone into my ass when i just ate a drumstick like does that make any logical sense why would you conclude such a thing yeah waiting for me after my run tonight like all these these boxers are like true jordan’s just like yeah yeah in his head he’s like how the [ __ ] is this relevant at all jake what’s up guys derek from our plates4dates.com today we are going to be reacting to the jake paul interview on true geordie’s podcast reason being is they actually addressed the frass zahavi uh bold claims of saying that jake paul is going to be on an array of peds and um tyron woodley is not he is indeed going to be you know natural but jake paul is going to be on a ton of [ __ ] just the full gamut of stuff there’s no drug testing or if it is it’s very very you know not stringent and he thinks that jake paul is going to be sauced to the [ __ ] tits and tyron’s gonna be not so anyways they both get a bit annoyed by this you know obviously being uh literally [ __ ] jake paul himself and true geordie being uh friends with jake paul i guess presumably so um yeah let’s just [ __ ] get into it and uh we’ll see what they say as we go here and the facts are the facts so credibly you’ve been working hard bro and that dedication is paying off and one of the things i’ve seen that came out in the last week was a former coach of tyron woodley for rasa harvey who i previously mentioned you in the last show we did who picked against you i think last time um he’s come out and picked against you again and he’s also said which this really pissed me off actually he thinks you’re on performance enhancers i don’t know if you’ve seen this comment from him he didn’t at any point say why in terms of why he thinks like he never said he looks a certain way he just said are those guys you know it’s boxing so here we go morning report for as the hobby suggests jake paul is taking pd’s and says it will absolutely make a difference um yeah so like the the exact quote i actually don’t remember off the top of my head but it was basically i don’t want to miss quote but go watch it yourself i did a video on it you know reacted to him and he was basically saying i think that jake paul will be on a lot i think his corner is going to have him on a decent amount of stuff whereas i think tyron’s going to be totally natural and it is going to make a difference in the fight results so you know pretty [ __ ] bold and obviously now again true jordy is coming at this from the impression the perspective of if you a guy on steroids is blatantly going to exhibit some sort of actual physical representation of steroid use like a traditional you know roid monkey look you’re gonna have like more muscle mass and gain a [ __ ] ton of side that you otherwise you know didn’t have a year ago or something like that you know he he clearly has a very rudimentary view of this stuff which we will get into shortly which is fine you know he’s not expected to know a lot more than that but i mean um it’s easier to kind of elaborate on the situation given knowing the context he has behind the statements and i just thought to have no basis to say that really shocked me but i wanted to know how it feels for you to have that labeled at you when he said there’s no basis to say that it’s like like it’s speculative based on the incentive to take it it’s not necessarily based on the fact that jake paul’s accrued like 15 pounds of lean tissue or something [ __ ] insane that’s obvious rather it’s the fact that he has so much to gain from winning this fight now some people would argue the opposite and they say tyron has less to lose than jake paul and jake paul has more to lose because he otherwise is not going to be able to get a big fight again if he doesn’t win this fight but then there are people on the other side of the spectrum who are going to say things like if jake paul loses he’s losing to a [ __ ] former ufc champion a very very athletic and gifted individual who no one would really expect him to kill in the ring anyways so if he loses is it really a big deal whereas if tyron loses yeah he’s doing it for the money and he doesn’t have a lot to gain by winning necessarily but he has he could get [ __ ] embarrassed you know and reflect on the sport of mma he’s also a good striker so the fact that if he loses it’s not going to reflect too well on his you know mma skills his ability to box his just you know credibility essentially as a you know good representation of the sport because a lot of mma guys like really really don’t want to give jake paul any [ __ ] props at all like they’re very very opposed to this guy having any sort of success and they want to discredit any kind of wins he’s had in the past and basically you know talk about how the guys he’s fought or you know like bums and whatnot but if he baits tyron woodley it’s a pretty big [ __ ] deal and you know it reflects pretty uh you know as a representation of what is basically the elite of mma now obviously he’s on the downslope you know he’s uh not competing like he once was he’s no longer a champion blah blah blah he’s still a [ __ ] elite mma fighter so if jake paul smokes them you know that like shut it’s gonna shut a lot of [ __ ] people up yeah i look at it as a compliment right these mma guys are running out of excuses on why their guys are losing uh and to to make a claim like that out of nowhere just shows like he should be embarrassed um you know my manager texted me that i woke up in the morning so should he be embarrassed for like people are asking him his opinion and if he speculates that and he’s answering a com like a frequently asked question like this is a his ama on youtube as far as i know is basically answering questions for people and this is part of like what he does this is you know he’s a highly respected individual in the mma community and people want to get his insight on stuff and people have the same questions that a [ __ ] ton of other people have and it’s highly requested to know something he’s you know gonna touch on and give his opinion i don’t think it’s so crazy for him to give an opinion on something and speculate you know like ultimately regardless if you have a million followers or you have one follower like there’s guys on their couch like with their buddies watching the [ __ ] fight like you think jake paul’s in [ __ ] gear like what do you think is going on do you think he got away with this who do you think’s gonna win why do you think so you know do you see a giant leap in his performance from this why is that like what do you think is going on people are talking about this [ __ ] all the time it’s just the fact that for us is you know an authority in mma and seen as like a you know a legend in the sport that somehow he’s held to some higher standard where he’s not allowed to speculate on [ __ ] um kind of silly in my opinion and he was like uh george st pierre’s coach is saying that you’re using peds fyi and i was like i so i literally swiped my phone up went to safari and i googled what are pete what’s peds i swear to god like i swear my mom’s life so like do you really think a guy who’s trying to become an elite high level boxer essentially like i guess he is a professional boxer at this point he’s fighting not actual boxers yet but he’s in these like big [ __ ] cards making a ton of money he’s boxing he’s training like he’s a you know pro boxer and you know he’s starting to get better and better draws better and better fighters are fighting against them um like this is something that you’re living and breathing every day for the past couple years at this point do you really think you’re not going to have come across this subject at least one time you know like it’s highly speculative about guys like pacquiao about guys like canelo about guys like mayweather guys like this that you [ __ ] know for sure like their career is like pretty goddamn elaborately there’s no way you have not touched on at least one time talk to your trainers talk to your gurus talk to whoever even research on your own like what kind of drug testing goes into these sports you know what are peds what kind of pds are guys using what have guys got pop for in the past what could help performance that’s legal what stuff you could get away with using because it’s not you know banned by water do you really think you’re not gonna be looking for every single advantage you have in a legal aspect and then above and beyond that like at tangent your way into saying like huh like i wonder what else like people have been doing over the years to get a leg up and an edge on their opponents in the boxing ring when you’re trying to fight for millions of dollars and literally solidify your name as a credible high-level athlete when people think you’re a clown otherwise i’m not saying he is i’m just saying like he’s trying to prove a lot of people wrong there’s so much [ __ ] incentive to do this [ __ ] and the fact that he has never heard of it in his life i find highly unlikely and it says performance-enhancing drugs i’m like oh my god like these guys these guys are trying to do anything at this point to discredit me to make me look stupid or to make any excuse and with the the crazy part about it is like dude these are real pro fights like we get drug tested so so this thing the thing i find interesting is yeah it does seem like some individuals like i found it interesting how ferrara said like pretty pretty confidently like jake paul is gonna be using [ __ ] but tyron’s gonna be natural like i don’t see how you would determine that given the fact that they there’s a lot on the line for both of them in my opinion you know so i don’t know why one would be so blatantly obviously enhanced to the gills like he pretty much said like he’s gonna be using a lot of different [ __ ] whereas tyron’s gonna be totally clean that to me was like a really a bit of a reach in my opinion and to me it seemed a bit you know perhaps like a you know justification for an mma fighter perhaps losing you know basically saying that tyron has a better like ethics and moral [ __ ] compass than jake or something and jake is you know gonna do whatever it takes to win and tyron would never cheat but jake paul would in order to win and then if he does win it’s not as justified if it’s of a victory and it’s kind of [ __ ] like that’s sort of like the implication people are getting out of that that are not like in agreeance with him and whether that’s the case whether that’s what he meant or not and that whether that’s you know biasing him and what he’s saying like obviously it’s understandable that jake would get [ __ ] annoyed by that as would anybody you know it’s kind of it’s kind of insane to be like how do you have any historical data of suggesting me being more likely to cheat than a guy who’s like a [ __ ] sauce to the gills looking fighter who has years under his belt of experience in the game including when gear was you know like heavily used and yet i’m the guy who’s definitely using [ __ ] and there’s no way he’s using anything just because i’m like a more shifty individual i’m less trustworthy or something like i don’t know man that seemed like like i said a bit of a race but then when he mentions we’re being drug tested it’s like okay so we get into that part like how are you being drug tested how stringently how frequently how randomized is it is it just the night of the event is it you know on a scheduled interval basis every single week is it randomized for [ __ ] months ahead of time like how rigorous is this process how much resources have been allocated into actually doing this properly and has it been for like a year prior is it eight weeks prior is it six weeks prior is it literally the night of not very much elaboration here that gives any kind of useful you know reinforcement of his credibility in that regard but i definitely do see why he’d be annoyed that people are you know saying he’s essentially less of a ethical person and more likely to cheat than tyron just because he’s i don’t know not a legend of mma or some [ __ ] like i don’t know oh how can you even make this claim like he you know it’s his point guys when i watched the video his point was that oh it’s not as stringent as the ufc testing but you know my point to return to that would be do your [ __ ] research like how old are you jake uh 24. right you’re you’re very young guy okay since i’ve known you your your physical body obviously it’s changed a very small amount from all of the uh the training that you’ve done but it’s hardly like you’ve packed on 20 pounds of muscle like you you know you’re getting fitter you’re getting stronger but your body your physique and i know that look there’s some stuff that it doesn’t show up or whatever but to me i just think it’s so unfair to label that at a kid who is performing and doing everything he can he does you don’t look in any way like you’re much like you know um conor mcgregor or any of these guys that you you’ve barely changed physically and just throw that out there with no evidence to support it i think is so he should be better than that is a man who who worked with george c and pa who in the period where the ufc was drugged up the [ __ ] george c pierre was the biggest and strongest welterweight but he was drug free apparently so there’s a lot of comments in the comment section about how true jordy says is essentially implying that george st pierre was on gear during the ufc and then he left right when ufc really like came in with its strict guidelines and that’s suspect as [ __ ] but jake paul is definitely not using peds despite the fact that there’s more lenient drug testing right now like so he’s kind of getting a bit of hate on that um and understandably so but again like you know everyone has their opinion and it’s just the thing about this guy is it seems like he’s very very close-minded and kind of in the thought process that a guy blatantly has to look like he’s on gear or have some sort of manifestation of physical clear changes in his musculature and body composition to actually be reflective of performance enhancing drug use which is not the case at all you could be using [ __ ] that enhances your neurology that enhances motor unit recruitment that enhances hematology and enhances [ __ ] recovery like there’s so much [ __ ] you can be doing that’s going to give you a huge competitive advantage over your opponent it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re going to look like you look like you took [ __ ] and your physique transformed you could stay the exact same [ __ ] weight and enhance a lot of different vectors of performance like look at again i often refer to this example because a lot of people do the whole does he look like a juice head you know smell test when they try to refer to you know he’s basically doing a natty or not on [ __ ] jake right now and how many guys in the ufc have been popped who don’t look like they take [ __ ] anything like anderson silva the the times when he popped positive for things like masteron these were times when he didn’t have any blatant changes in his physique that were superior to his previous outings you know fights where he tested clean and he smoked guys and [ __ ] him up and did the most crazy [ __ ] and looked better than he did at times when he used things like draw stand alone does that mean that you know anything like he didn’t look better so therefore he probably didn’t use [ __ ] like no he tested positive for [ __ ] gear multiple times did he look better in those fights was there some blatant 20 pound increase in muscle mass no and guys who are in weight classes are they going to be using [ __ ] that’s going to fluff them up and increase their weight significantly no they’re going to be choosing things that’s going to enhance endurance they’re going to be choosing things that enhance force production with a relative lack of increase in body weight they’re not going to be trying to look juiced up to the gills so to say something like does he look like you gained a bunch of muscle no he didn’t so why would you be speculating about that kind of [ __ ] silly i understand he’s trying to back up his friend and there really is no evidence necessarily that he’s doing anything but ultimately ferraz is doing a [ __ ] ama and people are asking him a question he has a lot of experience in the sport a lot of experience with fighters and for him to give a you know informed you know educated judgment here i think it’s fair he can do whatever the [ __ ] he wants he can speculate about whatever he wants and this is his opinion like why is he not able to say it you know people are asking him is he supposed to just like [ __ ] ignore the question even though his ama is like his chat box is [ __ ] flying and people are asking him donating to him and like send him like 20 bucks and they’re like tell me if you think this he’s just gonna be like no sorry like i don’t want to be you know unethical by telling you what i’m already thinking and you’re probably asking your buddies about but because i’m an authority in the mma space i’m not allowed to [ __ ] give my opinion of course not i think it’s totally reasonable for him to say what he thinks and i think this you know george st pierre comparison with uh you know the jake paul thing i don’t know like it’s kind of just silly to look at a guy and be like does he look sauced therefore he is or he isn’t on gear like that’s an easy [ __ ] call of course when you see a guy have a crazy physique it’s a lot easier to pick off like oh maybe he’s you know using a lot of [ __ ] it obviously it’s like a no-brainer to speculate of a guy who looks better than 99.9 percent of other fighters but to use that as your only basis of a conclusion drawing a conclusion off just what the physique looks like you know is silliness and i would think a guy who’s a fan of the sport and is talking about the [ __ ] to begin with you know would know that by now like how many guys have popped that first [ __ ] that has nothing to do with your physique you know like tj dillashaw recently with the epo doesn’t mean he was cranking his [ __ ] face off before that fight with gear necessarily he didn’t gain 20 pounds of muscle that would have been a horrible move for him to try and gain 20 pounds of muscle you know you know and george cmba campaigned forever for for usada the minute you saw her came into the ufc he left then then he came back for one fight he said you know what i mean so if you live in a glass house don’t throw stones to me i i was really as a friend of you i was a bit pissed off of that because i’m like this kid they’re trying to take it away from him before he’s even beat tyra mudly no exactly that’s what i’m saying they’re running out of excuses and look i i appreciate you having my back because it it is funny man it’s like bro i’m over here eating like ice cream you know these guys are accusing me of doing like sugars i’m like bro i literally have a bro i’m leaving eating ice creams how the [ __ ] could i be on peds you know how the [ __ ] could i be on pvs i literally say ice cream cone bro uh what’s it called uh the drumstick a vanilla fudge drumstick you guys i just had a vanilla fudge drumstick like why would i be injecting testosterone into my ass when i just ate a drumstick like does that make any logical sense why would you conclude such a thing yeah waiting for me after my run tonight like all these these boxers are like true jordan’s just like yeah yeah in his head he’s like how the [ __ ] is this relevant at all jake like don’t eat junk food i’m like bro these fighters are like and i’m just like i ain’t fudgicals bro therefore i’m not on peds i’m packing on some fat because i’m gonna drive that fat through tyron’s skull that’s what gives me my power is the ohio milk like i grew up eating [ __ ] food and pizza like i grew up eating pizza and shitty so like obviously i’m not doing anything like why would i i eat [ __ ] pizza oh it’s funny man so this is the thing you’ve you’ve always been an athlete you’ve always been athletic and next time a ufc fighter gets drug tested they should just like show up tell you sound and be like you guys like why are you showing up randomly at my house i just ate a [ __ ] fudgicle and a piece of pizza like are you that dumb i just ate pizza bro and like as someone who’s watched mma for years where you can you could spot a lot of the juice heads the you know the the veto bell thoughts you know people like that you could say the acne all over them the definition in their body like you’ve showed zero signs of any of this so yeah i wanted to bring that up because i was again the most primitive [ __ ] perspective ever does he have an acne breakout does he have male pattern baldness does he have gynecomastia does he have this or that those are easy ways to pick off you know speculative you know natty verse not cases like obviously if you see a guy and he randomly developed with titty out of nowhere highly [ __ ] suspect definitely worth you know looking at that one for sure but it’s not always that obvious there’s a lot of guys who fly under the radar and don’t look any different visibly or potentially even look worse in some cases because they’re on the downslope of their career and their body composition composition is just worse or they didn’t get in as good shape like again just because you’re on pd’s it doesn’t mean that all of a sudden you’re more jacked and shredded by default if you’re eating [ __ ] pizza and functionals all day versus if you had a good diet before like you could end up looking worse even though you’re on peds you know going into your fight i’m not saying that’s what’s happening necessarily but it’s just like to only look at the flagship markers that are the most obvious red flags oh he has a [ __ ] back covered in acne obviously he’s on gear and then disregard anyone who doesn’t look like they’re sauced out of their [ __ ] mind absolute silliness dude cause i was pissed when i when i seen such a well-respected guy talking that much [ __ ] in terms of the mma world anyway so is he talking [ __ ] or is he just giving his opinion when people ask him you know i think he’s just giving a [ __ ] opinion i don’t think i don’t know like maybe he is definitely biased towards the mma world because he doesn’t want to see a guy you know i don’t brush merch the [ __ ] sport if that’s even a word i think burst merchant might be a [ __ ] slang word who knows i think i’ve heard it before but uh you know put a bad mark on the mma community by losing to somebody you know as not credible and like good as jake paul and let’s you know chalk it up to the fact that jake’s on pd’s and tyron’s obviously clean like sure you know you could definitely argue that that’s definitely potentially influencing his statements definitely a high possibility but again it doesn’t mean he can’t give his [ __ ] opinion like the guy is a highly regarded expert in the [ __ ] industry and people want to know like who better to ask than a guy who’s like been through the the ringer with like top guys not necessarily in boxing well maybe yeah i don’t know like i know he’s a top mma coach and obviously he’s very well connected and you think if anyone was to know like [ __ ] about this and have a good insight on it it’d be him so [ __ ] why not [ __ ] ask him um as always they’re always talking about you and uh you you know you’ve um you’ve brought up a few things one of those being fight or pay now um i i wanted to touch on this because i think you’ve been winning some people over with this and it’s it’s okay so it sounds like that is the end of the ped discussion so let me know what you guys think do you think uh you know frass is in the wrong for talking about this [ __ ] do you think he it’s totally justified do you think he’s biased in his uh statements about you know jake paul definitely being on beds and a lot of them you know not just like a little bit like he’s on an array of them versus tyron is totally natural you know i definitely think there is like personally i think there’s some bias you know bleeding through there a bit where he’s saying you know jake’s definitely doing [ __ ] but tyron’s totally clean like why would why would tyron do anything [ __ ] jake is obviously the one taking hell of [ __ ] you know it seems a little bit you know a bit of an unfair perspective but i mean he’s totally justified to give his stats and give his opinion and if anyone you know we’re lucky we have access to a [ __ ] expert on youtube that’s you know a former coach of gsp who’s willing to you know talk about this kind of stuff openly and isn’t you know just closed-minded enough to be like you know [ __ ] you i’m not gonna say say anything about this kind of a situation at all like this is you know a cool time we live in where we can get you know a random youtube commenter can just like get frass zahavi to [ __ ] say something and you know give his opinion on something this would otherwise be you know an opinion that perhaps only a top athlete would have access to pretty [ __ ] cool in my opinion so i don’t know that is my stance let me know what you guys think in the comments down below all the comments help the algorithm they’re much appreciated who are you betting on on the fight or even if you’re not betting like who are you who do you think’s gonna win i should have said let me know in the comments 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