Why Do Asus ROG Pre-Builts Suck So Bad?

Why Do Asus ROG Pre-Builts Suck So Bad?

the story behind today’s video starts very similarly to many of my videos with me walking into a best buy and being disgusted by a gaming pc now about a year ago at this point i did a video on a different asus strix gaming pc which um well it wasn’t very good this one seems very similar to that one just worse somehow that that really takes some doing but before we check out this system it’s time for a word from today’s video sponsor that helped pay for this poor little pc today’s video is sponsored by corsair and their amazing 5000 d series of cases they come in three different flavors solid panel airflow and rgb bonanza the 5000d series of cases not only look spectacular but they’re also highly versatile with radiator mounting support up the butt there’s 360 mil radiator mounting on the top front and the side of the case with ample airflow clearance to feed those radiators even on the solid panel versions every 5000 d is shipped using soft luscious packing foam which means they’ll get to your door undamaged and they have more than enough cable straps for some light bondage action so if you want to build the pc of your dreams in a highly flexible sexy case check out the corsair 5000d with the link in the description below [Music] oh okay in standard aces fashion they have some high quality foam in here oh it looks like they ship it without a side panel on they did actually ship the system without the glass panel attached perspex panel here we have our asus flavor e-waste peripherals and here’s another box of goodies almost dropped that oh it’s upside down [Music] oh oh okay it looks like you get to choose your side panel i’m guessing this one is the performance side panel and the other one is gonna be the sauna side panel we’ll definitely test the thermal differences between the two later in the video having a look at the front panel of this case um i’m confused because according to asus’s website they show fresh air going through the front of the case cooling the hot components inside however if you have a closer look at what can only be described as the ventilation effect on the front of the case i don’t know unless asus has invented the technology that allows air to phase through solid matter i don’t think any fresh air is getting through there having a look at the top of the case you can see that we have a pretty basic front io and um oh there’s the power button and then having a look behind the bit of front i o is just a solid panel around the back we’ve got an okay rear i o although we don’t have any usbc ports which at this price point isn’t ideal and then we’ve got a whole bunch of video outs with a power supply that looks like it’s from 1972. would you look at that our good old friend a single 16 gig stick of ram and a motherboard with four dimm slots really gets my juices flowing next to that we have a pretty interesting looking cpu cooler i think it’s the same one that came with the previous strix system that i looked at uh those temperatures should be exciting under there we do have a ryzen 7 3700x so that is an eight core 16 thread cpu and then when it comes to the motherboard we have what looks like a standard m80x motherboard so no weird proprietary shape and if this is anything like a standard asus motherboard this may have a huge step up over other oem systems in terms of ram compatibility if we can enable xmps on this bad boy i’ll be inappropriately aroused but we’ll test that out later in the video and actually on the note of upgradability if you have a closer look at this cooler equivalent of a damp handshake you can see that it uses the stock amd mounting hardware which means if there isn’t something weird going on in the back of the case you could potentially easily upgrade the cooler on this system which will be pretty cool other than that we have a one terabyte sn530wd blue nvme drive and the star of the show an rtx 3070 which has a blower cooler on it if you look down here there isn’t much space for air to enter that fan but luckily this 3070 is gonna dump most of its heat out of the case which should help cpu temperatures a bit considering the restricted airflow actually on the note of airflow if you have a look at the front of the case you can see that asus very optimistically cut some ventilation in the front of the case and if you shine a light through the front panel you can see there is a minute bit of light spill which may redeem asus is misleading marketing but then you realize the reason that there’s light spill is because there’s a semi-transparent bit of plastic there so that the rgb leds behind can shine through and look all pretty but still no airflow in terms of cable management other than a bit of a skew usb3 front header cable it’s actually really good for an oem prebuilt in terms of the rear cable management it’s actually really good for an oem pre-built you can see that things are routed along places that make sense and yeah it’s not bad this rear back plate does not seem too obstructed so hopefully you can get that out without having to remove the motherboard so it means that it should be pretty easy to upgrade the cooler on the system down here unfortunately we don’t have any additional hard drive cages although it does seem like there is mounting for one in the base there and that is actually one of the reasons why it seems to be pretty easy to cable manage in this case you have a nice big hole to just stuff things in however that unmarked power supply does seem a little bit like an unlikely source of an insurance scam fire please ignore the weird angle it was quite difficult to get out but this seems to be a chicony power supply and it’s 80 plus bronze rated and it’s a 500 watt unit now i’ve not really seen a chicony power supply before but from a quick google they seem to be an oem that makes mostly laptop power supplies hopefully that 500 watt unit won’t struggle too much with the rtx 3070. but with that let’s put this questionable marketing exercise back together and see what kind of pcvd it comes with oh actually before we get to the whole pcvd thing i just wanted to point out the acrylic side panel mount which uses these standoffs that leads to a pretty big panel gap um that doesn’t look great but at least it may help with airflow a teeny bit i guess if you’re being optimistic uh yeah so let’s fire it up and see what’s going on on the system [Music] okay so here we are in windows with a gamer background and uh what is this my asus it seems like my asus is just a customer support portal here for various issues that you may regularly encounter on the system there’s also a promotion page you can also have like a my ace it’s like oh this is fairly standard most prebuilts have software like this on there other than that it comes with armory crate installed more like bloatware crate am i right i actually really hate armory crate it’s caused problems on every system that i’ve had it running on so uh yeah that’s i i guess it makes sense that it’s on here it is an asus product but it i hate that piece of software mcafee also makes a miraculous return i’ve missed mcafee on the last couple of systems but other than that this foreign oem system honestly isn’t that bad there there is a bunch of random crap in here but i’ve seen way worse than this so that’s you know good job on now on asus let’s have a look at what task manager has to say the ram is running at its rated 3200 megahertz speed so that’s good but we do only have a single stick of ram in there and as we’ve established multiple times in previous videos ryzen hates single channel ram with a burning passion likened to a thousand suns uh so that is definitely gonna affect gaming performance let’s quickly check out the bios to see what kind of ram speed options we have in there yes this does look like an asus bios which again asus is a motherboard manufacturer so you’d hope that they’d get this bit of the system right oh that’s already worrying we’re sitting at 60 degrees celsius on the cpu in the bios memory frequency auto yes look at that look at that that’s so beautiful hopefully that means we can just drop any off-the-shelf kit of ram in here and it can run at its rated speed i’ll definitely test that and its performance impact after the gaming session oh look at those memory timings that is very loose and considering the ram configuration in the system we’re definitely going to be losing out on quite a bit of performance okay but with that let’s do some gaming and hope that it doesn’t catch on fire okay so at this point we’re about 45 minutes into a session of battlefield v now this is running at 1080p which is not the recommended resolution for a 3070 the 3070 is much more at home at 1440p uh well like we asserted earlier the system is really noisy it sounds like two transformers making sweet love and that’s with neither of the components working particularly hard the other problem is frame rate under 100 frames per second at 1080p high settings with a 3700x and an rtx 3070 is terrible that is really not the frame rate that you’re expecting from that hardware configuration now moving over to non-native 1440p we can see that the graphics card temperatures have actually started increasing slightly yeah look at those gpu temps now now that we’ve gone from 40 utilization to about 60 utilization we’re now getting to that 83 degree celsius barrier that we’re so scared of um and the other thing that we’ll notice is that the frame rate hasn’t changed much the fact that the system’s performance seems so kneecapped is almost definitely because of the ram configuration but again we’ll do a quick test later in the video to confirm that [Music] wow that gaming performance is pretty shocking now again i understand that a 3700x and an rtx 3070 isn’t an ideal pairing for 1080p you’re definitely going to see a cpu bottleneck even in ideal situations but an average of 94 frames per second in battlefield 5 with high settings in an rtx 3070 that’s definitely problematic so let’s try a different ram kit in here that’s dual channel to a see if that bios that looks normal actually allows us to clock the ram properly even without je dec profiles and then let’s see how much more performance we get with a proper ram configuration now that we have our hyperx kit in here you can see that we can actually manually set the ram speed to 3200 megahertz which that is amazing and that’s pretty much a game changer in terms of oem prebuilts this is the only one i’ve seen so far that actually lets you manually clock the ram so good job on now on asus that’s really awesome [Music] that performance difference is actually bigger than i was expecting we went from 94 frames per second average to 131 frames per second again remember it’s the same amount of ram running at the same speed the only difference is the one is a single 16 gig stick and the other one is two eight gig sticks and i show this all the time on the channel but if ryzen was a person it would probably be a single channel ram serial killer however there is a little bit of a weird byproduct from this additional performance the fact that we’ve alleviated some of the memory bandwidth bottleneck it means that both the cpu and the graphics card are working a little bit harder which means we have higher temperatures while gaming yeah it’s getting even hotter and even louder in this configuration in fact moving over to 1440p with higher gpu utilization after only a couple of minutes of gaming the graphics card is already having to reduce its core frequency to control the temperatures which is real bad which i think means this is a good point to test the thermal performance difference between this sauna acrylic side panel and the high performance perforated side panel now for this temperature test i am going to put the stock single 16 gig stick back in there so that we can compare the two side panels in the system’s stock configuration okay so it didn’t make a massive difference the cpu temperatures are pretty much the same although the graphics card temperatures are a bit lower despite the fact that the utilization is actually higher in this example so it shows that actual airflow is definitely better than marketed airflow although again there is a bit of a trade-off that we have with this side panel the temperatures may be lower but considering that the perforations are on the side kind of facing at you it means that the noise is somehow more clear which i didn’t think was possible considering that even with the acrylic side panel the system sounds like a spitfire being strangled in a thin bath but let’s have a quick listen to what the system sounds like while gaming with the different side panels on in conclusion as is the case with all oem prebuilts this is a mixed bag on the one hand we have some of the best upgradeability i’ve seen on an oem pre-built and that mixed with the fact that you can manually clock the ram to its rated speed means you can buy ram from amazon or your local pc shop without having to worry about jdc profile compatibility and that just makes such a big difference i really like that but on the other hand for a system that cost me a thousand six hundred dollars and normally costs a thousand eight hundred dollars when it’s not on sale the noise and the build quality and the misleading marketing is all just too problematic ace is all you need to do to make this the best oem pre-built available is just put a better cooler on the cpu i know you have them available because you show them in your marketing you you have to have them knocking around somewhere also phase this terrible case out please don’t use it anymore uh the other strict system i reviewed had an amazing case in fact that was the best part about that system why not use that instead of this one for for all of your pre-built i get that they’re a different form factor and whatever but you know how to make good cases why are you what is what is this thing why why which brings me to the end of the video let me know in the comment section down below what you think of this bit of misleading marketing from asus very naughty asus very naughty subscribe to the channel and like the video if you like this kind of content and yeah until the next video bye [Music] you
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Why Do Asus ROG Pre-Builts Suck So Bad?

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