Will China Take Over Afghanistan?

Will China Take Over Afghanistan?

about china because this is one of the other things that especially the republican even some libertarians will say is but if we leave uh afghanistan here comes china and that you know they’re gonna get all these minerals and it’s gonna be so great for china and um then as a part of that too i was interested because when i saw china meet with the taliban it seemed like one of their major concerns wasn’t even the minerals or anything like that their main concern was the uyghurs who hang out in afghanistan and they told the taliban that they want them to cut ties with with the uyghurs and so um i’m just curious you know that this would be i guess another example of the taliban you know not really looking to have these overall sympathies with uh muslim jihadist groups against world superpowers and rather just you know to have everybody in afghanistan minding their own business and staying the hell out of you know china and america’s business maybe so i’m interested i think yeah of course i mean look oh no okay let’s take the the scaremongers hype at face value here oh no if we leave then china will go there and then what finish the sentence i demand it right then what the reality is america doesn’t have a single national interest in afghanistan of any measure whatsoever for china to threaten what difference does it make to america if china conquers the whole country they send half a billion people to colonize the whole place what difference does it make to us then the answer is absolutely nothing the same answer to what have we gotten out of 20 years of war there nothing and so you know i saw somebody sent me a tweet this morning of uh iraq war vet 88 88 88 pundit or whatever saying now the taliban and china together are going to take over the world yeah oh i’m so afraid i mean notice the people who are who are the biggest on the hype on this they don’t even know who’s who over there at all right so if anything america is going to be allying with the taliban against china rather than the taliban allying with the chinese against us and what the chinese are complaining about there is this group the east turkmenistan islamic movement e tim or etim and which the americans bombed them along with the um taliban together back in 2018 and the military called them terrorists the military and the cia don’t always agree eye to eye on who’s the terrorist kyle the u.s had them on the terrorist list at one point and trump took them off yeah that’s right yeah exactly right if that isn’t tipping their hand a little bit you know why not just lie it’s covert action anyway right why take them off the damn list they’re crazy anyway um so listen i mean this is the thing and i just talked with eric margulies about this about america supported the pakistani isi training uighurs in afghanistan and in kashmir he said in the 1990s and or late 1990s and very early 2000s he saw them in afghanistan in the summer of 2001 and um so then some of those guys were the same ones who were rounded up and tortured in guantanamo must be and then uh some of them were let go but according to seymour hirsch and there are other sources for this too i forget them all i need to go and line them all up in my head um but i know hersh wrote about this that there was something like 20 000 uyghur fighters who went to fight on the cia and al qaeda side in the syrian war and so then there’s a major question of what has happened to all of these guys and where have they gone and i can’t remember was it peter lee who wrote about what maybe it was peter lee who wrote about how they’re being kept safe in uzbekistan right now by american allies kind and reserved i need to go back and get my card straight on all of this man i gotta and within the past year i i read that there were some still in idlib uh in syria that i guess are kind of stuck there i’m not sure if like they had their own little town for a while right yeah i think that part of idlib was taken back though i think they got pushed and they’re just like and who knows turkey could have i guess helped uh you know move them back because turkey has a lot of influence in central asia and i think with the uyghurs and so you know it may be you know some of their involvement there and they’re looking also to strike deals with the taliban interesting scott how you know the one the big threats from the u.s in the past couple of weeks is oh if the taliban take everything by force and don’t sign a deal then they’re not going to have any international recognition and no international legitimacy in here you know the the russians are keeping their embassy open they’re fine with it the iranians seem fine with it you know they have their long deep ties with the pakistanis the the chinese seem more unwilling to talk to them our nato allies turkey are willing to talk and want to you know keep security at the kabul airport so it doesn’t seem like that’s going to be that big of an issue for the taliban yeah and look remember we’re the ones who switch sides in the war the russians are only finally switching sides now as they have no choice at all the russians have supported our effort there this whole time and the only reason they and the iranians have begun talking to the taliban is because they could see years ago now kyle and we’re having this conversation in 2021 and the american people are only just started paying attention again for a moment or whatever but years ago now it was clear that america had lost the war and the taliban had won it and if they’re going to have relations with whoever’s ruling afghanistan they need to get to it and especially in the case of the russians they wanted to side with the taliban as a hedge against isis and their original bet to be perfectly clear was that america and the afghan national army was their first line of defense against isis but the americans weren’t defeating them and so they said hey taliban this is you know again the taliban of conservatives not radicals and the russians say look kill these radicals man stand between us and these radicals and so the taliban said sure that was the only kernel of truth in uh you know stupid charlie savage’s propaganda about the russian bounties and all of that a year ago was that yeah the russians have been paying the taliban not to kill americans you filthy liar but just because they’re trying to have an open relationship with them to protect their own interests it’s as simple as that and so you know you’re right that they’re fine with it and that the americans ostracism of it and all that isn’t holding but believe me that’s by far their second choice to have to settle for the taliban you know that’s not who they would prefer to see in power in kabul at all i’m almost certain
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Will China Take Over Afghanistan?

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